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[TowerTalk] N's, Ctr Pins PL259, LMR 600 Con's-DAVIS RF

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Subject: [TowerTalk] N's, Ctr Pins PL259, LMR 600 Con's-DAVIS RF
From: Stephen Davis <sdavis@davisrf.com>
Reply-to: "Tower and HF antenna construction topics." <towertalk@contesting.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:55:26 -0500
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> 
> Dan, Perry, Jim, et al, 

   We have plenty of the two piece, EZ on , N types.  Many hams swear by them. 
They are real good, I only draw the line at MUF of 2 GHz for these.   Alas, I 
just figured out they were skipped in the frequent reformat  on our web site.  
Will send you pricing and info directly to you.
    We always have any/all RF connectors , wire and cable..on infreq't when we 
out of stock, we can get fill in stock faster or as fast as any supplier.

   Issue brought up about fitting PL 259's on ctr cond. of LMR 400 or Bury- 
Flex Tm (tm of Davis RF, the designer):  
   I used a 9.5 AWG, 19 strand (vs. 7 strand for LMR 400) on Bury Flex to gain 
more flexibility and to offset the slightly higher attenuation of increased 
stranding.  At HF, snipping a strand (one strand is doable, but easier to cut 2 
strands) is fine electrically.  Or, you can bore out the center pin of the 
connector using a # 36 bit (.1065) or better yet, 7/64" (.1094"), so you obtain 
.108" nom ID in the pin. Use a drill press if at all possible.   If you don't 
want to do either of these, you can spend not much more for our Amphenol PL 259 
and you'll be all set.
  
   Ref LMR 600 connectors, Strippers, tools:  For any size LMR's, we have 
excellent pricing on quality parts/tools, to include both TImes products and 
lesser cost alternatives.

Hope this helps.  Any questions, feel free to ask, on TT here if 
appropriate/helpful to others,  or send directly to me.

    73,  Steve   K1PEK    DAVIS RF Co.



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Electronic Wire, Cable and Cable Design Engineering 
RF Coaxial Cable Connectors and Telecom Parts
A Division of Orion Wire Company, Inc.
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Main office, NH:   Tel:  1-800-DAVIS RF   
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> 
>   1. Re: Crimp type UHF Connectors for LMR-600?...and BuryFlex
>      (Doug Rehman)
>    
>   3. Re: N Connectors (Marlon K. Schafer)
>    10. Re: N Connectors (Perry - K4PWO)
> 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:03:07 -0500
> From: "Doug Rehman" <doug@k4ac.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Crimp type UHF Connectors for LMR-600?...and
>       BuryFlex
> To: "'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'"
>       <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <06fb01caaa59$c5861330$50923990$@com>
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> I've encountered the same thing- I drill out the center pin on the connector
> and they work fine.
> 
> Doug
> K4AC
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:towertalk-
>> bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Roger (K8RI)
> 
> 
> -SNIP-
>> I have also run into a problem with some crimp UHF connectors not having
>> a large enough center pin to fit LMR-400 or Bury Flex. In the past the
>> ones I had would fit LMR-400, LMR-400UF, and Davis BuryFlex
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Roger (K8RI)
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:01:59 -0800
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <ooe@odessaoffice.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] N Connectors
> To: "Tower and HF antenna construction topics."
>       <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Cc: Lee Elkasri <lee@electro-comm.com>
> Message-ID: <3235EACE85DE46DE920CD98A9C5BDC31@mlaptop2>
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> Hi Dan,
> 
> If you don't already have them, save yourself a LOT of time and trouble and 
> pick up the stripper and deburring tools for the cable size you are working 
> with.
> http://catalog.digicatalog.com/showmag.php?mid=gqtff#/page138/
> 
> Times also has a relatively new compression type connector like you are 
> talking about.  I've used them for LMR600 and they are much much nicer than 
> the older style.  All you need to build a perfect connection these days are 
> the strippers, a pair of nail scissors, razor knife and a couple of Crescent 
> wrenches.  Very cool and very fast :-).
> 
> I've cc'd Lee at Hutton (Electro-comm) on this.  I've purchased all of my 
> cable from them for a very long time.  Good prices and great service!
> 
> Hope that helps,
> marlon
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dan" <n5ar@air-pipe.com>
> To: <TowerTalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 4:15 PM
> Subject: [TowerTalk] N Connectors
> 
> 
>> Ten years or so ago when I lived in Dallas, I picked us several type N
>> connectors of an unusual construction. They resembled
>> PL259's in appearance. They unscrewed into 2 parts. The center pin was
>> held in a teflon cylinder in the cable attach part. They are easier to
>> use than conventional N connectors. Does anyone know where these can be
>> purchased today?
>> 
>> 73, Dan, N5AR
>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:45:07 -0600
> From: "Perry - K4PWO" <k4pwo@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] N Connectors
> To: "Tower and HF antenna construction topics."
>       <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <1E7D5E121DF2427AA5907F226FB4AD4C@Developement>
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> Clamp type LMR600 "N" connector...
> http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=21012
> 
> Crimp type LMR600 "N" connector...
> http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=21005
> 
> 73 de Perry - K4PWO
> 
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> From: "Roger (K8RI)" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 20:12 PM
> To: "Tower and HF antenna construction topics." <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] N Connectors
> K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net
>> 
>> W5CPT wrote:
>>> Dan,
>>> You probably bought those at TT as I sold a bunch of them when I worked 
>>> for Gerald. I would assume he still has them.  I will disagree with the 
>>> "easier to use" part though.  I learned to install N connectors in the 
>>> military as that is what all the UHF & SHF stuff used, and still prefer 
>>> putting an N on than a PL-259 any day.  BTW: the HF & VHF all had BNCs 
>>> and I prefer those over PL-259s also.
>>> 
>> I use a lot of crimp type N connectors and like them, but just running
>> the legal limit into the band edges on 160 or even 75 has cost me a
>> number of them.
>> 
>> What I need are standard connectors to fit LMR-600 and that pretty well
>> limits me to N and UHF.  Finding UHF connectors to fit LMR-600 has been
>> a chore.  Some of the suppliers no longer even have LMR-600 cable or
>> connectors listed. So far the only one I've found carrying them has been
>> the wireman and he's out of stock.
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Roger (K8RI)
>>> Clint
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>  From: Dan
>>>  To: TowerTalk@contesting.com
>>>  Sent: 09 February, 2010 6:15 PM
>>>  Subject: [TowerTalk] N Connectors
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Ten years or so ago when I lived in Dallas, I picked us several type N
>>>  connectors of an unusual construction. They resembled
>>>  PL259's in appearance. They unscrewed into 2 parts. The center pin was
>>>  held in a teflon cylinder in the cable attach part. They are easier to
>>>  use than conventional N connectors. Does anyone know where these can be
>>>  purchased today?
>>> 
>>>  73, Dan, N5AR
>>>  _______________________________________________
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>   

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