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Re: [TowerTalk] Measuring Coax Loss

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Measuring Coax Loss
From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <>
Reply-to: "Tower and HF antenna construction topics." <>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:59:07 -0800
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Gary Schafer wrote:
> Hi Rick,
> I don't think that I have used the method that you describe. What happens
> when the cable length approaches a quarter wave length? Or is this only
> valid at a small fraction of a wave length?
> 73
> Gary  K4FMX

This is intended for low frequencies where the coax is much less than
a quarter wave.

If you can measure a quarter wave of coax, then the thing to do is
measure the Q of it as a resonator, from which the loss follows.
The Q can be measured very accurately by various techniques.
Which one is best depends on various factors.  Hard to give
a one size fits all answer.

I recently measured the loss of 10 feet of 7/8" hardline that I
got free by measuring the Q of the 1/4 wave resonance with my
HP 4815 vector impedance meter.  Measured the frequency difference
between -45 degrees and +45 degrees and divide into the center
frequency.  This measurement also gives the velocity factor.
I needed that so I could determine how long my 3000 foot piece
was without unrolling it, hi!

Rick N6RK

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