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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] outlet ground problems and shack grounds updating info needed please.
From: Mickey Baker <>
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:50:03 -0700
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Save your money and rewire your house, even an outlet at a time, as you can
afford it, properly with appropriate cabling, like, for example, ROMEX with
a ground wire. Running an extra wire will only confuse people who live in
the house after you and I are gone, and might present a hazard if someone
doesn't understand what you did.

Your first grounded outlets should be outlets used for appliances, power
tools and electronic devices that have a ground pin - like your computers
and radios. By the way, those surge suppression strips and GFCI outlets are
useless on ungrounded circuits.

I don't know how far the outlets are from your fuse box, but the materials
to rewire an outlet 50 feet from your fuse box are about $35, including an
"old work" box and a new breaker.  This is not a place to scrimp.

As far as hiring an electrician and pulling a permit, use your own judgement
and make your own decision as to whether or not you can do the work safely.
A permit doesn't make work safe. Remember that even experienced, licensed,
good electricians make mistakes - that's the reason for inspections.

#12 isn't big enough to ground your mast or to bond to your house electrical
system to expect reasonable lightning protection. Pounding an 8' ground rod
into the ground and bonding with #6 or larger is recommended as a minimum.

Good luck. Make safe choices - you might be making decisions for people you
don't know who will be living in the house in years to come.


The extra #12 isn't worth the effort.

Just use your

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Fred <> wrote:

> I have a grounding question for all you rf experts.
> 1st off a little about my system to lay out the reasons for this
> question and where it will lead to in end.
> 1:  my old house is 2 wire setup and of course I wish to ground out my
> outlets and shack better.
> 2. can NOT cut into walls at this time or able to find box in attic yet
> to link a new ground there even. ( at these temps I can not get in attic
> to do the work myself as I am disabled and can not climb a ladder to get
> in attic to start with)
> OK so with the above here is what I am thinking of doing  :  #12
> stranded thhn green from 1st ground rod at main box and run it under the
> house...

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Mickey Baker
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