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Re: [TowerTalk] Need sources of rope and fiberglass

Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Need sources of rope and fiberglass
From: "Roger (K8RI)" <>
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 15:49:49 -0400
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On 8/4/2010 10:38 AM, Charles Harpole wrote:
> Hope someone can refer me to a source for
> ---very light weight, very strong (500 lbs. pull), non absorbent, sun 
> resistant line/string/rope to use to internally guy a two element quad.
The problems I have are finding a braided rope. I don't want the type 
that has the woven protective sleeve over it.  I have problems with the 
core sticking out through the jacket with that stuff.    I purchased a 
1000' spool of 3/16 braided that is something like 800# test, must be UV 
resistant as the stuff that has been up holding antennas for 3 or 4 
years is just as flexible as it was when I put it up...and no noticeable 
stretch...AND inexpensive, or it was when I purchased it. The stuff is 
great for general purpose work and I had a 500 foot roll of 1/2" braided 
that has been great.  They may not have quite the strength of the double 
braid (core with cover), but I find them more durable.

I'm pretty sure I purchased it from either The Wireman, RFParts, or 
Davis.  I don't think either came from Davis. The problem is when I look 
at the sites, they don't give a complete description.  Guess it's time 
to get on the phone. All three places have been easy to deal with and 
very helpful.  As I've mentioned before, I'm sticking with Davis 
BuryFlex(TM) for my rotator loops.

I've reached the point where I need another spool of the dark OD or 
Green 3/16" (No it's not parachute cord) and another 500' of the 1/2". 
Now if I could just find out where I purchased them<sigh>
> -- light weight 8 foot fiberglass rod or tube, at least 1 and half inch 
> diameter.
1 1/2" diameter rod would not be light so you are looking at tube.
I gave away "the remnants" of a Diamond 144/440 21' tall vertical that 
had been "shortened" by lightening. About a foot from the top it looked 
like an exploded cigar and the radiator looked like a used piece of 
brazing rod, but the rest of the jacket was good. Matching network was 
also shot. But at-any-rate, the bottom section is about 1 to maybe 1 
1/4" tube that would be long enough, although I don't know if it'd be 
strong enough.  So, you might also look for some of the old Diamond and 
other antennas of that type as I'd bet quite a few get thrown out.  You 
can fix the radiator easily enough, but I don't know how to fix the 
matching network which is potted. Any way it might be worth a try.


Roger (K8RI)
> Well, my quad broke today in a gale.  The wind estimater says speed was 50 to 
> 56 mph based on small tree blown over, twigs and limbs down, and so on.  I am 
> impressed that the grass in the lots beside and behind me ... grass about 2 
> ft tall, was blown completely flat, so he wind at actual ground level was 
> bad, too.  Standard factory Cubex with factory stiffner... 2 el full size 
> 40m, 2el on 30, and 3 el on other two WARC bands.  Really worked nice!
> I made the mistake of not heading my quad West where the wind always comes 
> from... I think because it hit it on an angle, one of the top two spreaders 
> broke at about the half way point and all the wires of the driven element are 
> drooping over the mess that is left.  The reflector, lacking he added load of 
> the driven coax attached, survived.  I think the driven array also rotated on 
> the boom and the whole thing could have been pushed back on the mast, it 
> appears.
> I had plans already of putting in 8ft extensions on the ends of the boom and 
> tying the whole thing into a fully guyed internally.  I do not know how I can 
> get another fiberglass spreader shipped here, it is very long, and I have 
> only one fiberglass extension rod to do the strengthening so that is another 
> part to find.
> If you have suggestions on a very light very strong, sun resistant, non 
> absorbing string, line, rope.... please let me know.  de HS0ZCW
> Charly
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