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Re: [TowerTalk] best way to free a thrust bearing set pin ( allennut )

To: Bill Aycock <billaycock@centurytel.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] best way to free a thrust bearing set pin ( allennut )
From: Mickey Baker <fishflorida@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 22:20:43 -0400
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Gee, Billy, you sound like my ex-wife. I'm sorry if I hurt the
feelings in the WD-40 sensitive part of your brain.

You are right and I was wrong. How's that? Feel better now?

Is it those extra hydrogen atoms that leave a sticky mess and collect
water, dust and sand when you spray stuff outdoors with WD-40?

Seriously, the MSDS lists paraffin - de-waxed, which I suppose is
British for kerosene. Maybe with extra hydrogen atoms.

73,

Mickey



On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Bill Aycock <billaycock@centurytel.net> wrote:
> Mickey--
> Get your facts straight and re-do this. It is full of errors.
> Try looking up the Material Safety data on WD-40. "Paraffin" is a group name
> for Hydrocarbon compounds having 2 more Hydrogen Atoms than Carbon. Butane,
> Propane, Octane, Pentane, etc are all in the Paraffin series.
> You may not like WD-40, but why grab false arguments? If you exaggerate this
> much about a simple water displacer and light lubricant, how can pay
> attention to anything else you write?
> Bill--w4BSG (Who owns NO stock in WD-40)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mickey Baker" <fishflorida@gmail.com>
> To: "Michael Germino" <ad6aa@sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: "Bill NY9H" <ny9h@arrl.net>; <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 9:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] best way to free a thrust bearing set pin (
> allennut )
>
>
>> Avoid the use of WD40 for outdoor lubrication altogether. WD40 is a
>> mixture of paraffin and machine oil with a binder - it was invented in
>> the 1940's as a anti-corrosive preservative. It was "state of the art"
>> then, but there are better snake oils for lubrication and corrosion
>> protection today.
>>
>> The problem with WD40 is that the paraffin builds up over time as the
>> oil evaporates and you're left with a gunky mess that HOLDS WATER,
>> causing corrosion. Have you ever noticed that surfaces sprayed with it
>> get sticky over time? Best to leave WD40 for grandma and her sewing
>> machine.
>>
>> Heat - yes, you can destroy your bearing with a torch - you can turn
>> it into a puddle of molten metal with enough heat - but judicious use,
>> using only enough to free the screw, probably won't destroy the piece,
>> and is the only way to free the screw if penetrating oils don't do the
>> job.
>>
>> As I wrote, be careful!
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Mickey, N4MB
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Michael Germino <ad6aa@sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not all oil is created equal. Use actual penetrating oil. WD40 is great,
>>> but
>>> don't use it to free nuts. After you spray, tap it with a hammer. If you
>>> can
>>> do this off on on for a day it would be better. (Don't have to actually
>>> hit the
>>> set screw)
>>>
>>> If you use a torch you would ruin the bearing. (Heating the screw would
>>> loosen
>>> it.)
>>>
>>> I f you want to try to drill it out there are reverse drills that may
>>> catch and
>>> back the screw out, if you want to save the bearing.
>>>
>>> What is the cost of the bearing and what is your time worth?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> AD6AA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Bill NY9H <ny9h@arrl.net>
>>> To: towertalk@contesting.com
>>> Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 6:13:23 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] best way to free a thrust bearing set pin (
>>> allen nut )
>>>
>>> moving my tower gave me a chance to change the 2800 mast clamp to
>>> the one from XLC.
>>>
>>> It does not use the mast centering "pyramid" so i need to shift the
>>> thrust bearing, so the mast sits on the 2800 plate... otherwise it
>>> would be hanging on the unbolts on the mast clamp....
>>>
>>> trying to let some fine oil loosen it up tonight,,,,
>>>
>>> any great ideas how to convince that little 3/16 i think allen nut to
>>> loosen up ????
>>> and if it does not , do i have to drill it out ,....????tnx
>>>
>>> bill /3
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>>
>> --
>> Mickey Baker
>> Fort Lauderdale, FL
>> “Tell me, and I will listen. Show me, and I will understand. Involve
>> me, and I will learn.” Teton Lakota, American Indian Saying.
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Mickey Baker
Fort Lauderdale, FL
“Tell me, and I will listen. Show me, and I will understand. Involve
me, and I will learn.” Teton Lakota, American Indian Saying.
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