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Re: [TowerTalk] Min spacing to 80m yagi ?

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Min spacing to 80m yagi ?
From: GALE STEWARD <k3nd@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 08:55:32 -0700 (PDT)
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I also think you would have problems. Some years ago we tried a 5el 15M about 
8ft above a 2el 40 (full length elements). The 40 worked fine but the 5el 15 
was almost useless - higher VSWR, gain & FB both severely degraded. Replacing 
the 15 with a 5el 10M yagi and both antennas performed well. 

The harmonic relationship between 40 & 15 has always been a problem if the 
antennas are too close. The ratio between 40/15 (7mhz X 3 = 21mhz) and 80/20 is 
the same (3.5mhz X 3 = 14mhz).

I think that the 20M will have real problems in this case.

YMMV!

73, Stew K3ND



--- On Wed, 10/6/10, TexasRF@aol.com <TexasRF@aol.com> wrote:

> From: TexasRF@aol.com <TexasRF@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Min spacing to 80m yagi ?
> To: jim.thom@telus.net, towertalk@contesting.com
> Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 8:48 AM
> Jim, wouldn't you think that the 20m
> yagi would suffer pattern degradation  
> while the 80m yagi would be ok?
>  
> 73,
> Gerald K5GW
>  
>  
>  
>  
> In a message dated 10/6/2010 7:35:00 A.M. Central Daylight
> Time,  
> jim.thom@telus.net
> writes:
> 
> How  close can you get a 20m yagi, below a 2-el 
> 80m yagi ? 
> I have an  option to use a F-12  Sigma 
> 280-S  shortened 80m yagi
> at  the top of the mast, with the F-12 
> 340N  at the bottom of the mast.  
> Spacing between the two of them would be  10.5' 
>   If  possible,  I 
> would like to sandwich my  F-12 
> 520   [20m yagi]  between the 
> 80 and 40m yagi.    Apparently, you  can
> mount any other F-12 HF
> yagi within 36"  of the 3-el  340N 
> yagi.    If I put the 20m yagi
> 4'  above the 40m yagi...  that would leave 
> 6.5' between the 20m yagi
> and the 80m  yagi.   Will this work
> ??    If it doesn't, one option  is
> to remove the 20m yagi.   Another option
> is  to   place the 80 and 40m
> yagi's at right angles to each other [ no 20m yagi at 
> all] .   I don't 
> think this
> is required, but would minimize the  total wind load.
> 
> 
> Plan B  would be to replace the 2-el 80m yagi 
> with a
> 80m rotary dipole...with dipole inline with 20m/40m
> booms   below it.  IE: 
> dipole
> is then at right angles to both yagi's below 
> it.   Due to  day time height 
> restrictions,
> the above  options are strictly an after dark
> scenario.   I don't have any  
> software on hand
> to model any of the above.
> 
> Thanks....  Jim   VE7RF
> 
> 
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