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From: "Jim Thomson" <>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 03:35:34 -0800
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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 23:21:58 -0500
From: "Roger (K8RI)" <>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Shipping Companies

On 12/2/2010 5:55 PM, wrote:
> In a message dated 12/2/2010 12:01:13 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> writes:
>>   I am in the process of purchasing the HDX589MDPL from  K0FF. I will be
> picking it up in MO in March. I was wondering what the best  method of
> transportation would be to get it from Missouri to California.  Ray, N6RV,
> mentioned I should ask here to see if there is a reasonable  shipping
> company. Skip, KJ6Y, said I could use a large U Haul flatbed. I  figure
> about
> two days travel.
>      Hauling it yourself can pencil out. Several years  ago I moved the same
> type tower from San Jose, CA, to the Seattle area. A  trucking company
> quoted me about $2k - I rented a flatbed truck and did it for  about 1/2 that.

####  You would have to drive there..empty one way 1st.   Then load it up,
then drive back.  If a trucking co does it,  and wipes out, and destroys the
tower in the process,  you are insured.  Do it yourself, and you are out of 
On a smaller, lighter tower, you would be  probably be ok. With 5600 lbs, I
decided to leave it to the pro's.  

>      There's a reason why UST uses a trucking company  that picks it up at
> the factory and delivers it directly to the customer - too  much handling and
> damage otherwise. If you consign it to a shipping company,  there's that
> damage potential.
>      The trick is that you need handling on both ends  - I think the danged
> things weighs about 2000 lbs. (it might be 3000# - it was  a bunch of years
> ago) - so you'll need a backhoe, wrecker, crane or something  similar.
> Driving it's easy - it's the loading and unloading that's the crux.
I can rig something for unloading, (I have a lot of steel, a couple of 
4000# engine hoists, and two 4 ton cable hoists) but getting something 
heavy across the yard and around behind the shop is a real challenge. 
It'd take one of those fork lifts with the large pneumatic tires. I'd 
have to do it in the winter when the ground is frozen and wait till 
spring to install.
One of the old farm wagon frames would be ideal for that and might even 
work in the summer, but certainly not in the spring.

## I used.... 'U-ship'  to ship a 4800 lb  HDX-689  crank up..from  
Bakersfield  Victoria BC. [ original Z braced tower, with 5/8" thick 
legs].    A local trucking co, just north of me
bid on the job, along with eight others from the US.  My local
trucking co goes down there all the time, and hauls loads in both directions. 
That reduced my costs  considerably.  We used a crane  at each end to un load.
A 20 ton crane at my end  did the unloading of both the 4800 lb tower..and also 
560 lb triangular steel  base plate.   Base plate was in the back of the diesel 
pickup truck.
Trailer was 20' long, flat bed, dual axles, and would handle 7500 lbs.  The 20 
crane rental at my end was $220.00   Only took 20 minutes to safely sling and
un load the behemoth onto 4x4's and then un load the 560 lb base plate. 

##  No fuss, no muss, no ruts.  It was gently placed down exactly where I 
wanted it.
I paid cash  for the trucking co  + the cranes, saving a bunch more money. 
We used the same crane co  later on, to hover the 560 lb steel base, 5' above 
lawn, while we installed the 12 x 60"  long anchor rods and plates, etc, with an
impact wrench.  Once the 12 x anchor rods installed, the entire  800 lb mess was
gently lowered onto a pair of rectangular steel  tubes [ 2" x 6"  x  1/4" 
thick], which
had been laid across the 4x4  wood forms  around the hole.  The advantage of 
using the crane
was... [A] It can move the 800lb assy  on both X-Y axis's. [B] you can easily 
rotate the base assy
360 deg. [C] you can also swing the 800lb assy  like a pendulum.   It took a 
few try's to precisely
set the base assy  onto the pair of rect steel tubes.  Part of the issue was to 
relay instructions
to the crane op.  We ended up with the assy  hovering 1/8" above the rect 
tubes, and gently
swung it like a pendulum, till one side bottomed out, which just happened to be 
where we wanted it, then had the crane op lower it, till it bottomed out on the 
other side. 
We had 3 x  steel measuring tapes going at once.    It's a one shot deal, so 
has to be done right. 

Later... Jim   VE7RF    

It took two years to get rid of all the ruts the last time I had a truck 
(Hy-Ranger) out there, but I'd sure like to replace that 25G with a good 
crank up without spending a fortune.


Roger (K8RI)

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