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Re: [TowerTalk] Close call with death

To: Michael Hatzakis <>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Close call with death
From: Mickey Baker <>
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:21:36 -0500
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Drawings or not, as a ham, you should know where things cross your property
and where the easements are before you dig. In most places, these
call-before-you-dig services will come mark everything for free. Sketch it
out for yourself or hire a surveyor to place it on a survey.

Don't ever dig in the easement or pound ground rods unless you know the
location of everything. . Most public utilities make a concerted effort not
to use private property without a legal easement, except for your own
services... but it happens, so be safe rather than sorry.

If the orange is a communications fiber bundle, that's a big one and lot of
people are happy you didn't cut it.

If it were power, you are happy you didn't cut it.

Be careful out there!

Mickey N4MB

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Michael Hatzakis <>wrote:

> Its my belief that as a ham, whether you're digging a base for a tower, or
> driving ground rods, you need to go to city hall and get the surveying
> drawings for your house.  Most houses have these as part of their
> paperwork,
> but if not, most cities and municipalities have these drawings easily
> available.  Bad idea to do anything in backyard without this info.  When we
> built our tower, we HAD to show these as part of our permit to build the
> tower base.  I am sure there are plenty of people on TT with more info on
> this.
> mh
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [] On Behalf Of Alan NV8A
> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 1:55 PM
> To: towertalk reflector
> Cc: K2VI
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Close call with death
> On 01/15/11 04:34 pm, K2VI wrote:
> > Post hole digging to install the pipe in ground for the 43' zero five
> vertical. I disregarded the 1.5 inch fence post and used the scedule 40
> 1.25
> I.D gavanized pipe. When digging i was about 38" down when i hit something
> hard. Hit it a few times thinking it was a root. Well i realized it was
> probably a rock and reached down and dug some dirt out to find out it was
> an
> orange heavy plastic pipe about 1" 1/8 . Also next to it was a 1" black
> tube. Im not sure if it was a huge power line but glad i didn't bust
> through. I just threw down some garden rocks and cemented the pipe in just
> above the underground lines. So im sure this will hold up firm when the
> cement cures. As far as grounding. I did drive an 8" ground rod next to the
> pipe about 10" away. I know i have to connect the ground rod to the radial
> plate but wondering about connection the antenna to the ground rod. If i
> connect a wire from the UNUN box on the antenna side and run it to the
> ground rod won't it couple to the
>  ra
> >   dial plate? Since both the radial plate and antenna connect to the
> ground rod in essence they are now both coupled together. Im in the dark
> here. Can someone please help me out here. I would greatly apreciate the
> help. thank to all. 73
> Did you call "Miss Digg" first -- or whatever it's called around your way?
> 73
> Alan NV8A
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Mickey Baker
Fort Lauderdale, FL
“Tell me, and I will listen. Show me, and I will understand. Involve me, and
I will learn.” Teton Lakota, American Indian Saying.

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