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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Temporary Guys
From: Wayne Kline <>
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:58:38 -0400
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  Erecting Towers and installing antennas, I have come to one conclusion, NO 
two installations are identical.  and there are many ways to skin a Cat ( sorry 
animal lovers )
Discussing the use of temporary guys on cemented in towers optional ( depending 
on the guy spacing) but a  MUST on pier pin instillations .
I  have three Discarded  Mig welder reels, each with 125'  of  7X19 strand 3/16 
 Stainless steel cable. One end with a cinched forged snap hook the other end  
is left open
 I stretch them to the permanent guy anchor and secure it with a comalong 
attached to the guy anchor and a guy grip attached  to the temporary guy cable 
and ratchet them taunt.
This technique has been developed because of only  ONE reason.. PUCKER 
experiences  when using ROPE as temporary guys. BTDT with different type ropes.
I use the same cable for Tram line,on  a 300' reel ( I don't like to use rope 
for tram lines ) have that be single or duel installations tram configuration.
 Wayne W3EA 
> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 09:01:20 -0400
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> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Temporary Guys
> On 4/3/2011 1:55 AM, Dick Green WC1M wrote:
> <snip>
> > I was confident that the 1/8" stainless guys were superior to rope
> Well, there's rope, and then there's rope. Yes, the rope one might find 
> Home Depot is not useful for temporary guys, but there ARE low stretch 
> ropes which would be entirely suitable if tensioned adequately. A 
> professional might have some Kevlar core (or even better) temps in his 
> kit. I would be interested in knowing exactly what rope John was using.
> <snip>
> > I guess if I was a professional tower rigger, I would make up an assortment
> > of different length temporary guys using either 1/4" wire rope or EHS.
> > Turnbuckles, too.
> In lieu of dedicated temporary guys, most crews use one of the already 
> prepared upper sets of guys (with Chicago grips and high quality cable 
> pullers) as temporaries as needed.
> 73,
> -Steve K8LX
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