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Re: [TowerTalk] Balun Recommendation

Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Balun Recommendation
From: Hank Garretson <>
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:00:19 -0700
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1. There may or may not be significant losses in the core.

2. There may or may not be significant I-squared-R losses in the wire.

3. The cover was off when you did your test.

To me, all three items plus others make your test inconclusive.

It's a heat-transfer calculus which is very complicated.

You don't know how much heat was radiated to ambient air instead of
accumulating in and heating the core. You don't know how much heat from the
wire made it to the core. Thirty seconds is a very short time for heat
transfer and accumulation.

My recommendation is to check the balun under your typical worse-case
operating conditions. Thirty seconds key down is one data point, but I
wouldn't bet my balun on it.


Hank, W6SX

On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Michael Tope <> wrote:

Guys, I was testing their Unun. Although I do agree with what K9YC says
> about testing common-mode chokes, I just want to be clear that is not
> what I was testing.  Also, I think thirty seconds key down at 1KW is a
> pretty good test for something with small thermal mass. I would  have
> gone longer, but my amp is a Drake L-7 and I would be leery of running
> it longer than that (even 30 seconds is probably questionable).  A loss
> of 0.2dB would be ~50 watts dissipation in the Unun. I claim that much
> dissipation would produce a noticeable temperature rise in the unun
> core/windings after 30 seconds. The goal of the test was to give some
> indication of whether the unun was going deliver the bulk of the input
> power to the antenna. On that score it passed IMO. I also didn't see any
> drift in VSWR while doing the CQ 160 CW contest, where contrary to what
> W6RMK would have you all believe (he's heard to many of my "fish
> stories"),  I do CQ a lot with no answers :-)

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