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Re: [TowerTalk] Anchor bolts for LM470

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Anchor bolts for LM470
From: "Glen Turner" <>
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 02:46:31 -0000
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Thanks guys for all the good input.  I failed to mention that I have a "T"
base with the proper "ears" on it for the LM470.  It is made of 3/4 steel
that is to be bolted to the concrete pad.  More research has shown that the
"J" bend is not the norm now.  Will be busy checking out some of the
suppliers that have been mentioned.  73 W5IF

-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of Eugene Jensen
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 02:31
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Anchor bolts for LM470

I see no problem with your system either other than cost for all-thread in
the correct size. Dies in larger sizes are somewhat expensive and harder to
come by. I had the good  fortune  to had worked in a place with a full
machine shop and machinist that made lot of neat items. Since I've retired I
have to look a little harder but if I need a cage I can get weld type rebar
and weld any cage that needed. I have made in the past a LM470 cage complete
with ears. I might have the plans somewhere. The ears are more work than
welding the cage. Your skills might be different than mine but I find most
of these things can be done. 73 Gene K2QWD


From: Ray Benny []
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 9:11 PM
To: Eugene Jensen
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Anchor bolts for LM470



I mentioned before that a local bolt store sold bolts in 12 ft lengths. I
meant to say all-thread stock. And comes in a number of diameters, grades
and strength. You can buy nuts and washers like other are suggesting and
attach to the bottom of your length of the all-thread.


For my two 70 ft towers, I actually welded rebar to the all-thread to hold
the whole base together. Some say not to weld rebar, but considering it will
in encased in concrete, I see no problem. The remainder of the rebar can be
wire tied together. My towers have held up for years.




On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Eugene Jensen <>

I have a set of 2 inch  that were meant for a Street Overpass tower sign and
on the bottom is a 4 inch by 2 inch round treaded disc. Does the same thing
the  nut that us tower welds on the end.  On a tower I help installed I
welded  the 3 bolts with 3 inch plate to hold the pattern. Overkill for
holding the bolts other than it was cheap and I had lot of it. Next time I
would use 1/2 rod and tack to hold pattern. I learn the trick from a rebar
man.  Sure beats holding the pattern with the T base. 73 Gene K2QWD

-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of K0DAN
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 5:07 PM
To: Glen Turner;
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Anchor bolts for LM470

I rebuilt a Tri-Ex LM470 in 1999, and got the majority of my hardware
(galvanized bolts, pulleys, sheaves, hardened bolts, etc.) from RH Fastener
Supply Co.
They are in Kansas City, MO. <> 

FWIW when I installed my LM470, I purchased the foundation cage (as
mentioned by a previous poster) from Tri-Ex, attached re-rod, and the entire
assembly was lowered into the foundation, suspended by a frame, prior to the
concrete pour. The "cage" is entirely embedded in concrete, except for the
three "tabs" which extend above the top of the concrete surface. The tower
tower legs are bolted to the tabs.

I would recommend following factory specs on putting up this heavy
self-supporting tower. I do not believe this tower be safe, self-supporting,
or properly installed just using bolts in the concrete.

Good luck and 73


-----Original Message-----
From: Glen Turner
Sent: April 15, 2012 09:27 AM
Subject: [TowerTalk] Anchor bolts for LM470

Looking for a good source of anchor bolts to be used on LM470 tower.
Needing 6 bolts about 1" by 27" with J bend or angled.
Spec seems to call for ANSI F155 4 grade 55 bolts.  Anyone have spares or
know a good source in Midwest US?  Glen W5IF


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