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Re: [TowerTalk] Balun Recommendation

Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Balun Recommendation
From: Steve Hunt <>
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:25:12 +0100
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On 20/04/2012 03:12, Jim Brown wrote:
> The thing that is WRONG about Steve's statement is that it is not SWR
> that changes the voltage on the choke, it is the common mode voltage,
> which is the result of imbalance in the system.
If the system is perfectly balanced there is no common-mode voltage and 
you don't need a choke. Once the system is unbalanced, the common-mode 
voltage depends directly on both the degree of imbalance _and the 
differential mode load impedance_
> Yes, there is a mismatch, but the thing that can change the
> voltage across the choke is the change in the LOAD impedance, not the
> fact that it's a mismatch. And that change doesn't matter if the system
> is BALANCED.  Changing to 75 ohm coax and a 75 ohm load would preserve
> the match, but the higher voltage required for the same power level
> would also increase the choke's sensitivity to imbalance.
It's an interesting argument that changing differential-mode load 
impedance isn't necessarily accompanied by a change in SWR because you 
could change the feedline Zo to keep it the same; but I would guess most 
readers _don't_ change their feedline every time the load impedance 
changes, and for them changing SWR and changing load impedance are 
inextricably linked. In fact when I shift frequency 70kHz on my 80m 
dipole and its impedance changes from 50+j0 to 47-j35, I really struggle 
to find coax with a Zo of 47-j35 that will keep the SWR at 1:1 :)

For me - and I suspect most readers - changing SWR is a reliable 
indicator of changing load impedance; and a choke designer would be wise 
to cater for the extra dissipation that an SWR of 2:1 (or whatever the 
expected limits are) could imply.

I originally challenged this statement from Jim: "But SWR has NOTHING to 
do with dissipation in a common mode choke." I still maintain that 
statement is wrong.

Steve G3TXQ

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