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Re: [TowerTalk] Rebar schedule

To: "'Don Bowen'" <don.bowen@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Rebar schedule
From: "Steve Jones" <n6sj@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 10:13:12 -0700
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Don-

You can find many tower manufacturers' foundation diagrams and rebar 
schedules on-line.  You might search for a tower with similar height and 
wind load specs to what you plan and use their canned foundation design. 
For comparison, my 89' crankup uses >10 yards of concrete and #7 (7/8" 
diameter) rebar.  Concrete, rebar and digging labor is relatively cheap. 
Better to have the wind collapse your steel than lift out the foundation!

73,
Steve
N6SJ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Lemay" <john@carltonhouse.eclipse.co.uk>
To: "'Don Bowen'" <don.bowen@earthlink.net>
Cc: <TOWERTALK@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Rebar schedule


> Don
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> I see you've already had some replies and suggestions.
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> I'm not a PE, but I am a chartered engineer here in the UK. However, my
> expertise is not in foundation design ! I'll go on experience and 
> intuition.
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> A "yard" of concrete is not likely to be enough. This is particularly
> important (point has already been made), if the mast could fall on people 
> or
> property. I would suggest that two cubic yards is likely to be the right
> sort of volume (that will weigh something over four tones). Your four 
> fixing
> points should not be close to the edge, so with 42" centers, I would 
> suggest
> the base would be 60" across. Then work out the depth to give yourself the
> recommended volume. If you can, make the sides vertical and the base
> horizontal, and don't use formwork - simply pour the concrete into the 
> hole
> against the earth. Don't worry if there's a bit of water in the bottom,
> concrete sets under water.
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> As for the rebar, which was your original question, sorry I can't help. In
> the UK, many foundations such as this are simply mass concrete, and that's
> how my own mast is.
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> Good luck.
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>
> John G4ZTR
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>  _____
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> From: Don Bowen [mailto:don.bowen@earthlink.net]
> Sent: 04 May 2012 12:33
> To: John Lemay
> Cc: TOWERTALK@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Rebar schedule
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> On 5/4/2012 3:07 AM, John Lemay wrote:
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> Hi Don
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> Not enough information !
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> How tall is the mast ?
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> To the top of the fourth section is thirty six feet.
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> Will it be guyed or freestanding ?
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> Free standing
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> What will you put on top ?
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> hy-gain TH-3JRS triband and a Yeasu G-450A rotator.
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> What soil do you have 3ft down ?
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> Gravel, rocks, clay.
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> Regards
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> John G4ZTR
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> -- 
> Don Bowen           KI6DIU
> http://www.braingarage.com/Dons/Travels/journal/Journal.html
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