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From: "Peter Voelpel" <>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:15:39 +0200
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Very effective patterns to NA/SA, JA/NA or JA/ZS at the same time will be
made available by switching the 4 high stacks out of phase. 

Peter, DJ7WW

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Sent: Mittwoch, 26. September 2012 19:16
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 15m monster finally up

After studying this a little more, I do not think that the beamwidth can be
easily changed with switching.  In a model I tried driving only one side of
the array and the pattern looked similar to the fully driven stack, just
slightly skewed. One thing for sure, this will be very very strong in the
direction it is pointing.

John KK9A

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Subject: re: [TowerTalk] 15m monster finally up
Date:    Wed, September 26, 2012 9:01 am

Great job Tonno, this is an amazing array! Certainly much effort (and
money) went into the design and construction of this system. The 3dB
beamwidth of 30 degrees is not bad considering that you have at least 5dB
more gain than most stacks, however signals do drop off very rapidly once
you turn past the 15 degree mark. After 20 degrees they are almost gone so
having an accurate rotator will be important.  Hopefully your "human"
rotator has been calibrated!  I imagine that you will be able to increase
the beamwidth when needed when you complete the switching work.  I am sure
that you will have fun with it in this weekend's WW contest.

John KK9A

Subject:[TowerTalk] 15m monster finally up
From:    Tõnno Vähk <>
Date:    Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:47:38 +0300

I am happy to inform all friends that a project of last 4-5 years was
completed during the last weekend at ES5TV KO38CS central ES QTH and a
double H frame on 15m was finally erected what is probably one of the
biggest 15m setups in the world today.

See the full 2-day gallery at:

Go to the last 16th page if you wish to see the final product right awayJ

70 meters high tower carries 8 5-element 15m yagis as pairs separated
horizontally by 12 meter distance and vertical stacking is 14 meters. The
heights of the antenna pairs are 64, 50, 36 and 22 meters.

Antennas are Optibeam OB5-15:

Tower is produced by 4O3A/YT3M:

Model shows ca 16 dbd free space gain and almost 24 dbi gain at 4 degrees
over real ground. Beamwidth is less than 30 degrees. Testing has been so far
limited but the results confirm exactly the modelling results. Pattern
measured with signal generator and SDR was almost identical to what the
computer suggests and signal levels drop ca 12 db when antenna is 20 degrees
off and already 20 db when 25 degrees off the correct direction.
There is huge -50db+ null at 90 degrees confirmed with real measurements
(!) and ca -20-30 db signal drop on the other directions.

First comparisons with my best antenna so far (4 high tribander stack) show
ca 10 db advantage to US when pointed right. That is huge of course.  At the
same time east coast and west coast can't be covered with one directionJ

The stack will have phase switching capability which allows any pair of the
4 to be switched out of phase to change the radiation angle. Pre-configured
steps are 4, 7, 10, 15, 30 degrees while maintaining most of the gain as all
antennas are always connected. The phase switching is not yet connected but
will be very interesting to see the results and to get some real insights
into how the different angles play.

We briefly tried to hear the moonbounce when the moon was on horizon but did
not succeed yet. But 15m was wide open and signals probably did not
penetrate the ionosphere. I still hope to be able to complete some EME QSOs
with the stackJ

CQWW RTTY on the coming weekend will be the first contest for the monster.
Let me know how ES9C will sound on 15 meters. As the rotating is still
manual will keep it either to US or JA.





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