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Re: [TowerTalk] If you had a choice

Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] If you had a choice
From: Jim Lux <>
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:27:49 -0700
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On 10/17/12 2:01 PM, David Gilbert wrote:

Those $300 quad-copters might not have the beef to handle the task, but
I'm pretty sure that the more expensive octo-copter machines (about
$3500) could.  They can lift upwards of 2 kilograms, and they not only
can be controlled from the ground they can be pre-programmed to navigate
whatever path you want via their own onboard GPS.  I think it would take
a pretty stiff wind to throw them off course.  The biggest downside to
using them might be battery life, but pretty much the entire measurement
process could be automated so that it didn't require much air time.  It
might even be possible for such a machine to lift its own power cord for
supply from the ground if the measurement protocol allowed for a fixed
X-Y position (i.e., the antenna could be rotated).

But in general, this should be possible:

*  pre-programmed, GPS controlled flight plan consisting of concentric
rings at multiple heights in a spherical configuration.

*  onboard field strength detector with a small sense antenna

*  onboard transmitter to send back real time signal strength readings
and GPS coordinates to a ground based receiver feeding a laptop for data

I suspect that if someone wanted to get fancy they could feed the test
antenna with broadband noise (pulsed for recognition) and put an SDR in
the copter.   There are some interesting possibilities out there ....

Dave   AB7E

I was going to fly a PCR-1000 receiver (which has a reasonably well calibrated power detection) and a switch which would select one of 3 orthogonal "electrically short" dipoles. The receiver would be tuned in a sequence of frequencies across the bands, stepping through the sequence at 1 Hz or something like that.

You'd just log the GPS position, orientation, etc. along with the data from the receiver. Then you'd transmit 10 second long CW signals from the antenna under test at each frequency.

Then you'd post process.

The receiver part is easy. The flying part is hard (or, at least it was back when I had this idea). As you say, today, you could probably get a several kilobuck quad or hexcopter that has good stationkeeping and autopilot capabilities.

The $300 Parrot AR-Drone could not do this.. (I have one.. it's a heck of a lot of fun, and can get 50-100 ft up, but it doesn't have the load capacity, nor the autopilot sophistication...)

You could make the remote unit a transmitter, which would reduce the weight a lot. Something like a PIC or Arduino driving a DDS and the appropriate RF switch (e.g. a CMOS gate) to the three dipoles would work nicely. Probably do it all for <100 grams.

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