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Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 125, Issue 28

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 125, Issue 28
From: "WK1W Ivan Shapiro" <WK1W@ivanshapiro.com>
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 15:03:54 -0400
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Regarding LMR400UF:  I was also told about its negative features outside for
long periods.....after putting up four runs.  Not worried, though, because I
encased them in "SPLIT-LOOM"  spelling?  That's the corrugated split plastic
tubing you see in automotive engine compartments to protect the wiring.  I
did this so the wires would not get caught on the US Tower's stamdoffs.   I
had had the experience of my Siamese and cat5e getting caught and ripping
when raising the tower.  This prevents it.  Hopefully it will keep the UF in
good shape.  Next run up a tower will be DAVIS BURYFLEX.
73
Ivan
WK1W

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Attaching "flex" cable to crank-up standoffs (Marv Shelton)
   2. Re: Attaching "flex" cable to crank-up standoffs (Steve Jones)
   3. Re: Attaching "flex" cable to crank-up standoffs (K8RI)
   4. Re: Attaching "flex" cable to crank-up standoffs (Steve Dyer)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 05:09:59 -0700
From: Marv Shelton <marvs@att.net>
To: K8RI <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Attaching "flex" cable to crank-up standoffs
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So, what do you think is best? RG-213???
I think getting 5 years out of low loss coax is acceptable. I can help force
at least that interval of mainten ance on one's amtennas.


Best 73's
de Marv WA2BFW/7
(from my iPad)
> 
> LMR 400 is not recommended for repeated bending. It has a Copper plated
solid Aluminum center conductor.   OTOH LMR-400UF is very flexible but does
not normally stand up well to out door use. The jacket is a rubber like
material that is easily abraded, catches on most any thing and has a short
advertised life of 10 years.  Best I've gotten out of using it in normal
situations has been around 6 years.  It works very well, but not for long.
> 
> 73
> 
> Roger (K8RI)
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 06:28:02 -0700
From: "Steve Jones" <n6sj@earthlink.net>
To: "'Marv Shelton'" <marvs@att.net>,   "'K8RI'"
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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Attaching "flex" cable to crank-up standoffs
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I have seen many glowing reports about Davis Bury-Flex for this purpose on
this reflector.  No first-hand experience with it though.

73,
Steve
N6SJ


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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Attaching "flex" cable to crank-up standoffs

So, what do you think is best? RG-213???
I think getting 5 years out of low loss coax is acceptable. I can help force
at least that interval of mainten ance on one's amtennas.


Best 73's
de Marv WA2BFW/7
(from my iPad)
> 
> LMR 400 is not recommended for repeated bending. It has a Copper 
> plated
solid Aluminum center conductor.   OTOH LMR-400UF is very flexible but does
not normally stand up well to out door use. The jacket is a rubber like
material that is easily abraded, catches on most any thing and has a short
advertised life of 10 years.  Best I've gotten out of using it in normal
situations has been around 6 years.  It works very well, but not for long.
> 
> 73
> 
> Roger (K8RI)
> 
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>> wa2bfw@att.net
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 09:52:29 -0400
From: K8RI <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Attaching "flex" cable to crank-up standoffs
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On 5/14/2013 8:09 AM, Marv Shelton wrote:
> So, what do you think is best? RG-213???
> I think getting 5 years out of low loss coax is acceptable. I can help
force at least that interval of mainten ance on one's amtennas.
>

I purchased a 500 foot roll of Davis BuryFlex(TM) Although not quite as
quite flexible as the LMR Ultra Flex, it is still quite flexible and has a
very rugged and slippery jacket.

I also have about 500 feet of LMR-600UF for UHF and VHF where I was willing
to settle for the shorter life.  I also use regular LMR-600 for feed lines
that do not require the greater flexibility and on 160 for lower IR losses
although it probably doesn't make much difference.

73

Roger  (K8RI).


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> Best 73's
> de Marv WA2BFW/7
> (from my iPad)
>>
>> LMR 400 is not recommended for repeated bending. It has a Copper plated
solid Aluminum center conductor.   OTOH LMR-400UF is very flexible but does
not normally stand up well to out door use. The jacket is a rubber like
material that is easily abraded, catches on most any thing and has a short
advertised life of 10 years.  Best I've gotten out of using it in normal
situations has been around 6 years.  It works very well, but not for long.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Roger (K8RI)
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 07:20:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Dyer <w1srd@yahoo.com>
To: "marvs@att.net" <marvs@att.net>,    "K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net"
        <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>,     "n6sj@earthlink.net"
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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Attaching "flex" cable to crank-up standoffs
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I've had Buryflex in my rotator loop for 13 years with no issues. Great
cable.
73,
Steve
W1SRD



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