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Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection

To: Nick N3NR <radio_n3nr@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection
From: Dave Dodge <dldodge@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 10:13:56 -0400
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I've watched this discussion on the subject of grounding go round-and thought I might as well throw my two cents in the ring. One of the best written pieces on approaching grounding I have come across was written by W8JI. I have included a link to that article for the your reading and subsequent discussion pleasure. I can only tell you that living in the lightning capital of the world and having implemented W8JI's recommendations, I have not lost any equipment yet. Read the article and then ask yourself how many of the recommendations have you implemented - are you close to the "Best by Far" or not even close? The link to the article (and other interesting articles on grounding, lightning, etc.)
is: http://www.w8ji.com/house_ground_layouts.htm     73's, Dave, K4CTV

On 7/6/2013 5:13 AM, Nick N3NR wrote:
A good reference on the subject relative to commercial systems is the Motorola R56 manual. It's slightly dated, but still a good reference. I have seen this manual called out frequently as a reference, or sometimes even a requirement, for commercial systems.

You can find a copy here: http://www.radioandtrunking.com/downloads/motorola/R56_2005_manual.pdf

Lots of examples and ideas.

73 de Nick N3NR
----- Original Message ----- From: "K8RI" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
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Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning Protection


On 7/5/2013 3:44 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
Every time Towertalk starts off on one of these threads I feel compelled to add one skeptic's viewpoint, and this time I'm actually going to do it.

I'm not a EE but I managed to get over in while earning a degree in CS.

I have a 100' 45G that had a 30' mast with a TH5 at 100', a 7L C3i 6-meter Yagi at 115' and a cross boom at 130 feet with a pair of 11L 440s ans a pair of 12L 144 antennas.
http://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_files/Tower29.htm
When first installed this system took at least 3 direct hits a year for a total of 17 visually verified hits the first 6 years it was up. The only loss was one Polyphaser at the entrance. There is over 600 feet of bare #2 CadWelded to 32 or 33 8' ground rods. There are two parallel runs from the tower to the grounding panel and ground rods at the entrance. http://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_files/cablebox.htm The photo at the entrance is out of date as that panel/box has been replaced with a larger one.

During that time the rigs remained connected to the antennas, power, computers and network. They stayed connected because the connections were very difficult to access. I was more concerned about the connections to the computers and network as they are on a different circuit along with the cable connection.

BTW the stations in the house and shop are on serrate electrical feeds although from the same transformer,

Unless you are an electrical engineer with deep understanding of
lightning protection, I think that attempts to replicate a commercial
24/7 always-connected solution are far more likely to fail than to
succeed.

Lightening protection is pretty well standardized and there is plenty of information available. There is no 100% guaranteed, fail safe protection even for the 24 X 7 stations, but they are well protected from most strikes. It's just that there is no guaranteed protection from the so called, "super strikes" that can be many times more powerful than your run of the mill, every day strikes.

So, yes, the best protection is to disconnect everything from everything else, not just the antennas and power. Remember a strike a mile away can induce as much as a 1000 volts per meter into a piece of wire,

Another danger is precipitation static, What heavy snow in high wind can induce into an ungrounded quarter wave, 40 meter vertical is something to behold and I've never seen an ignition coil produce that kind of voltage.

Twas about 35 years ago. We were in the process of building a house on the NW corner of the family farm. I had a 40 meter, 1/4 wave vertical about a 100 feet out. The rig, a Kenwood TS820, was disconnected. A very strong wind was blowing with heavy snow. I kept hearing a loud snap or pop! I looked behind the rig and was surprised to see a FAT blue ARC across the PL259. The thing is, it wasn't just cross the end but rather arched out a good inch away from the end of the connector, forming a loop that appeared to be close to a couple of inches long and it was loud!. Rain with strong wind can also produce similar results.

I've seen similar results from nearby lightening strikes from the feedline to the 75 meter dipole.


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73

Roger (K8RI)

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