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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Climbing
From: <patrick_g@valornet.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 09:44:30 -0500
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Another way to look at this situation.  Lets encourage everyone who thinks free 
climbing is a good idea to do so.  The rest of us might score some good used 
station equipment and good used towers at the SK estate sales.


Patrick NJ5G  ;)  ;)



On Friday, October 3, 2014 11:53 PM, EdK0KLl <edk0kl@centurytel.net> wrote: 
> Unless you are still smoking, in which case all the safety devices 
> are wasted effort ... 
>  
> 73! 
>  
> ed K0KL 
>  
>  
> On 10/3/2014 10:20 PM, Hans Hammarquist via TowerTalk wrote: 
> > Hi Dug, 
> > I thought this topic had come to and end. You are right, though; if you can 
> free climb your tower you shouldn't climb it at all. The same way; if you 
> can't 
> drive a car without your seat belt you shouldn't drive at all. 
> > 
> > 
> > Enough said. 
> > 
> > 
> > 73 de, 
> > 
> > 
> > Hans - N2JFS 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: ve5ra <ve5ra@sasktel.net> 
> > To: towertalk <towertalk@contesting.com>; Mike via TowerTalk 
> <towertalk@contesting.com> 
> > Cc: Doug Renwick <ve5ra@sasktel.net> 
> > Sent: Fri, Oct 3, 2014 8:08 am 
> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Climbing 
> > 
> > 
> > Mike, 
> > 
> > It's good to hear from people who are realistic and have common sense. 
> > 
> > Free climbing has been around for thousands of years and will continue 
> > for many more. 
> > 
> > Some folks get all twisted and bent out of shape when free climbing is 
> > done.  Like all activities there are risks involved.  To have one 
> > death is unacceptable, but consider how many folks loose their lives 
> > driving, or falling off ladders, or in aeroplane crashes, every day. 
> > Yet these activities continue.  Life is terminal.  To end it 
> > prematurely is unfortunate, however one does their best to survive in 
> > this world. 
> > 
> > I am talking about climbing towers under say 150 feet.  I am not 
> > talking about working on high steel or working on thousand foot towers. 
> > 
> > I am much safer free climbing a secure tower than free climbing an 
> > unsecured extension ladder.  That ladder can wobble and slide to the 
> > ground ... crash. 
> > 
> > Free climbing should only be done by persons who: 
> > Are in excellent physical shape. 
> > Are not careless by nature. 
> > Are not tired. 
> > Are mentally focused. 
> > Are not risk takers. 
> > Are capable. 
> > Are not in a rush. 
> > Are experienced. 
> > Knows their safety eqiupment. 
> > Climb in suitable weather conditions. 
> > 
> > IMO some of the safety regulations are practical and others 
> > political.  Some regulations appear to try and protect even the 
> > incompetent and careless.  If we have the climber gorilla hooked in 
> > six different places with a full body harness tied off in ten different 
> > spots and a parachute attached to his butt, there is no way this person 
> > is going to fall and hurt themselves.  IMO some of these regulations 
> > are there to protect the regulators.  They can say we did everything 
> > possible to protect climbers so the responsibility is not ours.  Sure 
> > load the climber down with pounds and pounds of additional gear. 
> > 
> > IMO some of the issues are caused by the climbing industry 
> > themselves.  Asking climbers to work in unsuitable weather conditions, 
> > asking workers to hurry up, hiring workers that are careless by nature 
> > and so on. 
> > 
> > I am not recommending any climbing method.  You know how I climb. 
> > You do what is practicable and reasonable. 
> > 
> > As I have said many times before "If you can't free climb, you 
> > shouldn't be climbing at all". 
> > 
> > Doug 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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