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Re: [TowerTalk] modeling compare: 80M, 2EL vs 4SQ

To: "'David Gilbert'" <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] modeling compare: 80M, 2EL vs 4SQ
From: "Ed Sawyer" <sawyered@earthlink.net>
Reply-to: sawyered@earthlink.net
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 06:43:08 -0400
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I thought for sure that I had seen elevated radials and a groundscreen pictures 
from K3LR but clearly they are not.  They are a 120 ground radial pattern.  
Sorry for my mistake on that.

Ed  N1UR

-----Original Message-----
From: David Gilbert [mailto:xdavid@cis-broadband.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:48 AM
To: sawyered@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] modeling compare: 80M, 2EL vs 4SQ


I'm confused.  I've searched all over K3LR's web page and can't find any 
description of his elevated radials.  Can you provide a link or something?

Dave   AB7E



On 3/17/2015 6:34 PM, Ed Sawyer wrote:
> My point is that the K3LR belief must be that it was worth the effort to 
> improve the ground losses and overall transmit efficiency or they wouldn't 
> have done it.
>
> Lets hear what K3LR has to say.
>
> Ed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve London [mailto:n2icarrl@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 12:38 PM
> To: sawyered@earthlink.net
> Cc: ab7e >> Dave - AB7E
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] modeling compare: 80M, 2EL vs 4SQ
>
> Ed says:
>
>
> Try listening to K3LR running EU on 80M and think again.  Ohio/Penn soil is 
> not salt water and a 4 sq is a 4 sq.  So if the extensive ground screen over 
> elevated radials is so useless - what is your explanation of the performance.
>
> ---------------
>
> What is your point ? K3LR has a pair of phased 4-squares on 80. All with 
> ground radials. His soil is pretty wet - downright swampy in the 80 meter 
> radial field during the fall contest season when I have been there.
>
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
>
>

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