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Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 153, Issue 40

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 153, Issue 40
From: "Wilson" <infomet@embarqmail.com>
Reply-to: Wilson <infomet@embarqmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 22:22:37 -0400
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There are nearly always some open frame relays, like we used to use for antenna changeover, at hamfests. The ceramic ones would do fine at 100W, or much more. Even 600 ohm line doesn't have extreme voltages, under 1KV at a KW.
I can't find any on Google, but they are around, just a few $ each.
WL

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: G-2800DXA Resistance readings (john@kk9a.com)
  2. Re: G-2800DXA Resistance readings (Mark Pride)
  3. Looking for good source of 20 ft mast (Stephen Davis)
  4. Re: Looking for good source of 20 ft mast (Matthew King - KK4CPS)
  5. Re: Looking for good source of 20 ft mast (john@kk9a.com)
  6. Re: Looking for good source of 20 ft mast (Gene Smar)
  7. relays for remote ladder line switch (Rik van Riel)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 06:41:24 -0500
From: "john@kk9a.com" <john@kk9a.com>
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] G-2800DXA Resistance readings
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I think D. Drake is correct.
http://www.yaesu.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts&ProdCatID=104&encProdID=E0526A9F285ECCF36F75CC3FEC992990&DivisionID=65&isArchived=0

Also as he mentioned the outdoor connector is sensitive moisture and it
would be the first thing to check. The rubber boot does little to stop
ingress.  When I had G-2800DXA rotators I sealed the boot with silicone
sealant.

John KK9A


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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] G-2800DXA Resistance readings
From: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Reply-to: jim@audiosystemsgroup.com
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 16:36:38 -0700


On Sun,9/13/2015 3:30 PM, D. Drake wrote:
Pins 1, 2 and 3 go to the 500 ohm position pot
with pin 2 being the wiper.  Also pin 3 is
grounded at the rotor.  So my measured resistance
from pin 1 to 3 was 506 ohms.  Pin 1 to 2 was 288
ohms and pin 2 to 3 was 221 ohms with the rotor at
45 degrees at the full CCW position pin 1-2 was
502 ohms and at the CW stop pin 1-2 was 70 ohms.

Pins 4 and 5 go to the motor and with the rotor
not at a mechanical stop the resistance was 12
ohms

Hmmmm. That's exactly the opposite of the schematic I remember seeing
online, as well as opposite of their smaller rotator (GXE1000?). Pins 1
and 2 are the motor, 3, 4, and 5 is the position pot.

73, Jim K9YC



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 11:55:19 +0000 (UTC)
From: Mark Pride <mpridesti@yahoo.com>
To: "jim@audiosystemsgroup.com" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>,
"towertalk@contesting.com" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] G-2800DXA Resistance readings
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I concur with Dale's description.
G2800DXA model (with Cinch connector on control box)? - Also the same for the G1000DXA model.
1,2,3 are for the potentiometer
4,5 are the motor and 6 relates to the stops.
I?am happy to scan and supply the schematic.
Also note:? I have found their version control is very poor.? Moving from Cinch connectors to?Molex; FT1000D - always send the original manual when having it repaired as these radios had changes?that were not well?documented (but I digress).?Regards, Mark, K1RX ? ????
     From: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
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Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] G-2800DXA Resistance readings

On Sun,9/13/2015 3:30 PM, D. Drake wrote:
Pins 1, 2 and 3 go to the 500 ohm position pot
with pin 2 being the wiper.? Also pin 3 is
grounded at the rotor.? So my measured resistance
from pin 1 to 3 was 506 ohms.? Pin 1 to 2 was 288
ohms and pin 2 to 3 was 221 ohms with the rotor at
45 degrees at the full CCW position pin 1-2 was
502 ohms and at the CW stop pin 1-2 was 70 ohms.

?

Pins 4 and 5 go to the motor and with the rotor
not at a mechanical stop the resistance was 12
ohms

Hmmmm. That's exactly the opposite of the schematic I remember seeing
online, as well as opposite of their smaller rotator (GXE1000?). Pins 1
and 2 are the motor, 3, 4, and 5 is the position pot.

73, Jim K9YC


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:33:37 -0400
From: Stephen Davis <sdavis@davisrf.com>
To: "towertalk@contesting.com" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Looking for good source of 20 ft mast
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Hello all

Specs :   20 ft. 2" O.D. .50" wall chrome moly

Yep, .5 "  !

Tnx a lot.  73. Steve. K1PEK

Steve Davis
Senior RF Cable Design Engr.
& Founder
DAVIS RF Co. a  division of
Orion Wire Co., Inc.
Tel: 978-369-1738
    ALSO: Davis Rope & Cable             Assembly Co., LLC:
     Design Engrs, Distribution







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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 16:48:51 -0400
From: Matthew King - KK4CPS <KK4CPS@gmail.com>
To: Stephen Davis <sdavis@davisrf.com>
Cc: "towertalk@contesting.com" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Looking for good source of 20 ft mast
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I would think your local(ish) steel yard is probably your best bet for that.

That's gonna be a beast! What's it going in/on? What's going on it to
require such a specification, just for curiosity's sake?

73 es GL

Matt
KK4CPS

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Stephen Davis <sdavis@davisrf.com> wrote:

Hello all

Specs :   20 ft. 2" O.D. .50" wall chrome moly

Yep, .5 "  !

Tnx a lot.  73. Steve. K1PEK

Steve Davis
Senior RF Cable Design Engr.
& Founder
DAVIS RF Co. a  division of
Orion Wire Co., Inc.
Tel: 978-369-1738
     ALSO: Davis Rope & Cable             Assembly Co., LLC:
      Design Engrs, Distribution




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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 18:10:41 -0400
From: <john@kk9a.com>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Looking for good source of 20 ft mast
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That is probably a difficult wall thickness to find and you may have to go
to solid 4130 if you insist on using that diameter and need that much
strength. 3" mast is stronger per pound and so much nicer to climb and clamp
to.  I have not used a 2" mast in decades.

John KK9A


To: "towertalk@contesting.com" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Looking for good source of 20 ft mast
From: Stephen Davis <sdavis@davisrf.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:33:37 -0400
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Hello all

Specs :   20 ft. 2" O.D. .50" wall chrome moly

Yep, .5 "  !

Tnx a lot.  73. Steve. K1PEK

Steve Davis
Senior RF Cable Design Engr.
& Founder
DAVIS RF Co. a  division of
Orion Wire Co., Inc.
Tel: 978-369-1738
    ALSO: Davis Rope & Cable             Assembly Co., LLC:
     Design Engrs, Distribution



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 20:29:35 -0400
From: "Gene Smar" <ersmar@verizon.net>
To: "'Stephen Davis'" <sdavis@davisrf.com>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Looking for good source of 20 ft mast
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Steve:

    I bought my 2"X1/4" CM mast from Special Metals, Inc. 6406 South
Eastern Oklahoma City, OK 73149;  Sales: Joe Varva 800-727-7177.  That was
in 2001 so neither the company nor Joe nor the number might be around
anymore.  Good luck.


73 de
Gene Smar  AD3F



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Stephen Davis
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:34 PM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] Looking for good source of 20 ft mast

Hello all

Specs :   20 ft. 2" O.D. .50" wall chrome moly

Yep, .5 "  !

Tnx a lot.  73. Steve. K1PEK

Steve Davis
Senior RF Cable Design Engr.
& Founder
DAVIS RF Co. a  division of
Orion Wire Co., Inc.
Tel: 978-369-1738
    ALSO: Davis Rope & Cable             Assembly Co., LLC:
     Design Engrs, Distribution





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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 21:51:27 -0400
From: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] relays for remote ladder line switch
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Hello,

I am considering building a remote ladder line switch using W199X-12
relays, which are open frame DPDT with 1600V breakdown voltage between
open contacts, 2200V between poles and coil/contact.

I run with 100W power.

Does anybody have opinions on relays like those, experience with them,
or good experiences with other relays that you think I should
consider instead?

I am looking at switching between two lazy H antennas (one east/west,
the other north/south) and maybe some doublets for lower bands.

The plan is to have each antenna switched either to a 4:1 balun, or
to ground. Would it make more sense to leave the unused antennas
ungrounded, or discharge static through 1M resistors?

thank you,

Rik AB1KW
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