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Re: [TowerTalk] cell phone antenna on ham tower?

To: <k1ttt@arrl.net>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] cell phone antenna on ham tower?
From: n4zkf <towertalk@n4zkf.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 15:52:39 -0400
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Been in this business 17 years and that is a new one on me. You learn
something every day.

73 Dave n4zkf







On 10/28/15 7:51 AM, "David Robbins" <k1ttt@verizon.net> wrote:

>flying a balloon at the height of a proposed tower or windmill so
>neighbors can see how much it will affect their scenic views is a common
>requirement in this area for commercial stuff.
>usually required for so many days some time before the public hearings.
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>Oct 28, 2015 06:19:03 AM, towertalk@n4zkf.com wrote:
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>I am in this business. This is what I do. Gene and Bud are correct.
>(although the balloon gets me?) Also don't forget the taxes are going up.
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>73 Dave n4zkf
>e-mail: n4zkf@n4zkf.com
>web: http://www.n4zkf.com
>CC-Cluster node: 145.07 Mhz. or telnet://ccc.n4zkf.com:7373
>N4ZKF/R 147.375 Mhz. Tone 103.5
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>On 10/27/15 7:12 PM, "Gene Smar" wrote:
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>>Donna:
>>
>> On the other side (the carrier's) of the coin, they'll probably want
>>24-hour access and a commercial power source as heavy as, or heavier
>>than, your home's, plus a BAG (.... Generator.) Your insurance agent
>>may want an increased premium for the commercial operation on your
>>property. 
>>
>> I've driven past cell towers on private property around here (DC
>>area) but they were on large farms away from population centers.
>>
>> Caveat Amateur.
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>>73/88 de
>>Gene Smar AD3F
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>>W2RU - Bud Hippisley
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 6:42 PM
>>To: tower 
>>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] cell phone antenna on ham tower?
>>
>>Donna ?
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>>Please let me expand on Jim¹s very important comment.
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>>I spent six+ years looking into antenna zoning restrictions in my search
>>for a new QTH. In general ? and this may not be true in your locality
>>but it was / is true in by far the majority of municipalities I
>>investigated ? amateur radio towers may be preferentially treated only as
>>long as there is no commercial use co-located on the tower.
>>
>>Once there is a commercial application on your tower, it becomes subject
>>to what are usually far more restrictive paragraphs in the local zoning
>>ordinance. You may, for instance, be required to have public hearings
>>when you weren¹t required to for a ham tower. You may have to fly a
>>brightly marked balloon, where previously you weren¹t. And so on. And
>>it gets worse ? and worse ? and worse.
>>
>>In short, you most likely will lose any protections you might think you
>>have under PRB-1.
>>
>>Unless you live in a municipality that has no zoning at all ? and no
>>restrictions at all on cell towers ? I don¹t even recommend ³proceed[ing]
>>with caution² ? I recommend not proceeding at all!
>>
>>Bud, W2RU
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>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 4:41 47PM, Jim Brown
>>>wrote:
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>>> On Tue,10/27/2015 1:02 PM, ag6v@whidbey.com wrote:
>>>> I'm sure some of you have an opinion/experience with cell phone
>>>>antennas
>>> 
>>> No experience, but caution -- beware of zoning issues that apply to
>>>commercial installations as opposed to ham towers.
>>> 
>>> 73, Jim K9YC
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