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Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: OWAs or Fans?

To: Hans Hammarquist <hanslg@aol.com>, towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: OWAs or Fans?
From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:42:55 -0700
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You can model the insulation on the wire.
It would typically cause a 5% decrease in
Zo, not enough to explain the discrepancy.
The distance above ground has nothing to
do with the error caused by using an
unbalanced meter.

Rick N6RK

On 6/21/2016 1:56 PM, Hans Hammarquist via TowerTalk wrote:
Could be true. I also should have added that the 14 awg wire has some insulation and, I don't know 
if this matter, is twister multiwire. I don't remember what the wire is called but it is used as 
"hook-up" wire in equipment. The "unbalanced network analyzer" is probably of 
stronger influence but I just made it to see roughly where it was. It really was not of importance 
for me as I didn't know the exact feedpoint impedance and was planning to use a tuner anyhow.


I didn't think the balanced to unbalanced could be of that much importance as 
the feeder was several (~10) d - d distances above ground when tested.


Hans - N2JFS



-----Original Message-----
From: Richard (Rick) Karlquist <richard@karlquist.com>
To: Hans Hammarquist <hanslg@aol.com>; towertalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Tue, Jun 21, 2016 2:45 pm
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: OWAs or Fans?

My calculation of that line works out to 579 ohms.
Something doesn't add up here.  Probably explained
by trying to measure a balanced line with an
unbalanced network analyzer.  Or using a balun
you haven't calibrated out.

Rick N6RK

On 6/21/2016 10:44 AM, Hans Hammarquist via TowerTalk wrote:
Sorry Ed,


My feed line is an open wire, 14 AWG with a 4" spacing. I believe it have a Zo 
of about 400 ohm (I tested it by putting a 390 ohm resistor at the end and watching 
the SWR as a function of the frequency.) I made the line myself.


Hans - N2JFS



-----Original Message-----
From: Edward McCann <edwmccann@yahoo.com>
To: Hans Hammarquist <hanslg@aol.com>
Sent: Mon, Jun 20, 2016 11:36 pm
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd:  Fwd:  Fwd: OWAs or Fans?

And Hans,

Your feedline is not described in your response. While I am assuming it is 
ladder or open wire feed, wound you mind being a bit more specific: maker, 
model number, impedance, etc.

Thanks,
AG6CX


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