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Re: [TowerTalk] LMR600 male DIN

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] LMR600 male DIN
From: "StellarCAT" <rxdesign@ssvecnet.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 11:26:53 -0400
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Forgive me - I've replied to Gerald's email but this is directed to the thread in general: WHY all the concern for sealed connectors and connector types? I've been using UHF for 49 years and the only time I've had issues with those installed outside it was my fault - either poor wrap of tape or poor solder job ... I've had cables with connectors that were out for years with electrical tape wrapped around them in 2 directions - years later when disassembling them for a move they were utterly pristine! I don't get it - why so much discussion?

Gary
K9RX



-----Original Message----- From: TexasRF@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:56 AM
To: john@kk9a.com ; towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] LMR600 male DIN

John, you bring up a valid concern. I am not aware of any coaxial type
connector that could be considered waterproof. The fundamental reason is
because the threaded connections do not create a hermetic seal when they are
screwed  together.

There are inevitable air spaces inside the connectors and coaxial  cables.
These air spaces will fill with air. When the air is heated  (like outside
in full sun) it will expand, creating a positive pressure.  Conversely, when
the air cools (like at night), it will create a negative  pressure. This
negative pressure will suck tiny amounts of water vapor through the threads of
the connector.

If enough water vapor is present droplets of water can condense during  the
cooling cycle and over the course of days and weeks can collect inside the
connector. Once inside, there is no escape and the droplets continue to
collect  over time.

If there are rain or dew drops of water on the outside of the cable, they
can also leak through the threads and collect inside the connector. Gravity
is  not your friend here.

Many commercial applications pressurize all of the cables even if they are
foam filled types to prevent the problem. You may have noticed many of the
Heliax type connectors have air fittings; that is why.

73,
Gerald K5GW




Over


In a message dated 9/7/2016 5:37:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
john@kk9a.com writes:

Is any  TX connector really water proof?  Are DIN's being  professionally
installed with no external butyl rubber and tape? On the two  outdoor DINs
that I have, I weather proofed the connection the same way I  did with UHF
and N connectors.

John KK9A


To:     towertalk@contesting.com
Subject:    Re: [TowerTalk] LMR600 male  DIN
From:    "Roger (K8RI) on TT"  <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Date:    Wed, 7 Sep 2016  01:08:48 -0400

Take care!
According to the Amphenol page N-Type are  not water proof/weather proof.

73

Roger  (K8RI)

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