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[TowerTalk] Fwd: anti-climb, litigation, attractive

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Subject: [TowerTalk] Fwd: anti-climb, litigation, attractive
From: Hans Hammarquist via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: HansLG@aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:16:42 -0500
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Jim,
 
The thing is that, according to what I read, you have to fail ALL the five  
point in order for some courts to find you responsible. I believe that you  
have to fail at least some of them. If you put up a fence or anticlimb 
device  you should be relatively safe. No, I don't think it can be considered 
"cost  efficient" to use illuminated signs with motion detectors etc. A fence 
around  your entire installation with guy wires etc should be considered, 
from y point  of view, enough. 
 
You can never stop anybody that is determined enough. If somebody wants  
dearly to climb your tower they will. You can't stop them. I would like to 
see,  no actually I wouldn't, that court that will hold you responsible for 
that. The  same way, if somebody breaks in to your house and get injured a 
court will not  hold you responsible for that. Yes, there are myths around it 
how a bungler  slips on ice when breaking in and the owner end up paying 
compensation but  nobody can show where this happened.
 
Anyhow, an anticlimb something and a few signs should be enough for most  
situations if I read it right.
 
Hans - N2JFS
 
  
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 From: _jim.thom@telus.net_ (mailto:jim.thom@telus.net) 
To:  towertalk@contesting.com
Sent: 2/10/2017 1:52:04 P.M. Eastern Standard  Time
Subj: [TowerTalk] anti-climb, litigation, attractive


Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 18:36:41 -0500
From: Hans  Hammarquist <hanslg@aol.com>
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject:  [TowerTalk] Fwd:  Fwd:  anti-climb, litigation,  attractive
nuisance

I do believe that if you put up the anti-climb  planks or a reasonable high 
fence around the tower and add signs warning about  the danger you should 
be relatively safe. Regarding high RF levels I suggest  that you keep this 
under control so you can interrupt transmission if somebody  enter that area. 
A better alternative would be to avoid high RF levels at  ground altogether.


73 de, Hans - N2JFS -----

##  and if  you post signs, they had better be in several languages. They 
should also be  illuminated at night, like  perhaps a motion detector 
led..and perhaps  powered from a UPS supply. 
And if you mark the signs...danger.   Danger from what, falling yagis, or 
falling ice, or your shunt fed 160m  Tower.
And if marked ..danger.   That implies the tower is a  dangerous hazard. 
You just implicated yourself, good luck with that.   One of the local hams  
used  three 4 x 8 sheets  of  plywood on the base of his trylon tower.
Painted em white.    Easily removed when required.  At the telco I worked 
at, we used 4  sided  steel fencing, non climbable, and barbed wire facing 
outwards at  the top, at a 45 deg angle... for both towers, and also
guy  anchors.   Teen aged kids and guy anchors are a bad mix.    Base of 
tower + equipment buildings were also fenced off with an 8 ft tall  fence + 
more barbed wire. 

Jim   VE7RF 




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