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Re: [TowerTalk] Tower lightning ground system layout

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tower lightning ground system layout
From: K9MA <k9ma@sdellington.us>
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 15:26:49 -0500
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Why do you want to go 65 feet out? Seems to me the minimum distance from the tower to keep the ground rods 16 feet apart would be better. For 4 rods 90 degrees apart, that's just over 11 feet. If you want longer buried radials, they can extend beyond the ground rods, with lighter wire, if necessary.

While I don't have any hard data, I've always felt that in most soil the radials themselves might be a more effective lightning ground than ground rods, assuming they are heavy and numerous enough. (I do know that in average soil the resistance of a single ground rod is some Ohms, not great if you get a 100 K Amp strike.) My inclination in your situation would be to install as many shorter AWG 2 radials as possible, placing ground rods wherever you can at the 16 foot spacing.

I have 1200 feet of AWG 12 and 13 ground rods in my 60 by 120 foot lot. AFAIK, it hasn't been tested by a direct strike, yet. Its integrity is regularly tested by my YL digging in the garden, though.

Perhaps one of the experts will weigh in on this. Much as I'd love to have a Faraday cage under and around the house, the really optimal, recommended grounding configuration seems rarely to be practical.

73,
Scott K9MA


On 5/18/2020 14:28, Art Greenberg wrote:
I am working on the layout for my tower lightning ground system.

I have on hand about 275 feet of #2 bare solid copper. I also have 17 8-foot 
ground rods.

I've read that lightning protection "radials" reach the point of rapidly 
diminishing returns at lengths beyond about 70 feet.

Originally I planned to have three runs of 50 feet about 120 degrees apart and 
make a fourth run go to my entrance panel and mains ground. But it seems my 
distance estimating skills are lacking. I just measured that distance and its 
more than 100 feet, and well beyond being an effective length.

If I instead go with four runs of about 65 feet spaced at about 90 degrees, the 
fourth run will be limited in length by a driveway. I can't rotate the whole 
pattern very much to improve that due to another obstacle. My apparent options:

1 - I can abandon the idea of equal angular spacing to make that run a bit 
longer. I think I can get the full 65 feet but I'll be going into a wooded area 
with the possibility of having to deal with shallow tree roots and I definitely 
won't be able to make a perfectly straight line of it.

2 - I can turn it into two or three shorter runs in a fan configuration (also 
abandoning equal angular spacing), but the angular spacing between the fan runs 
will result in the set ground rods on each run that are 16 feet from the base 
of the tower being much less than 16 feet apart. I imagine the optimal spacing 
rule of 2 times rod length still applies.

3 - I can put a bend in a single run to turn it parallel to the driveway to get 
the full 65 feet. I would have to abandon equal angular spacing to avoid an 
acute (less than 90 degrees) bend. What would be the best way to lay out this 
bend (e.g., multiple gentler bends vs. a single bend, smooth curve or something 
else, what about ground rod placement, etc.)?

Any of these options means acquiring more ground rods. I think I have a 
sufficient number of Uni-Shots already.

I'm thinking option 1 is best, but I'm uncertain. Is there a clear advantage to 
one approach vs. the other?

While I'm asking ... Should I be thinking about using more shorter runs, say 5 
runs of 55-ish feet spaced 70 degrees apart, or 6 runs of 45-ish feet spaced 60 
degrees apart?

Yeah, I'm probably over thinking this. But I live in Florida and summer 
thunderstorm season is about to begin.

Thanks.


--
Scott  K9MA

k9ma@sdellington.us

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