On 10/31/20 4:11 PM, jimlux wrote:
 
On 10/31/20 2:19 PM, Michael Tope wrote:
 It would interesting to take a known good antenna like a monoband Yagi 
(or perhaps a SteppIR) and do a set of measurements over the course of 
several days to evaluate the measurement repeatability. If someone had 
designs on doing a K7LXC/N0AX type antenna evaluation study, this 
would help determine the size of the error bars for measurements of 
different antennas taken over the course of several days. Stable 
weather would likely be a desirable characteristic of the measurement 
environment (no drastic changes in ground characteristics during the 
measurement period).
 
excellent point..
 
I had to use Google to get the bagpipe joke :-)
 
 
Here's some actual measured data from a site in the Owen's Valley
 
 
Curse spellcheck - Owens Valley
 the Owens Valley Radio Observatory (OVRO) is located near Big Pine 
(between Bishop and Independence)..
 
 http://jim-lux.blogspot.com/2020/10/permittivity-under-antennas-there-is.html 
 There were significant variations in the surface soil properties (4" 
deep), but since skin depth for HF is substantially more, it's probably 
stable over a day or two, assuming it doesn't rain or it's continuously 
raining.
 But substantial changes over months, so if you've got a vertical, that's 
going to make a difference.
 
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