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Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Peak Voltage at the tips of ants ?

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Peak Voltage at the tips of ants ?
From: Larry Banks via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Larry Banks <larryb.w1dyj@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 12:14:48 -0400
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Good point Jim!   I wonder what the "ideal" characteristics of an antenna are that would radiate 100% of the energy near the earth?   Is this true in free space?

Larry / W1DYJ


On 10/4/2022 12:06, Lux, Jim wrote:
On 10/4/22 9:04 AM, Larry Banks via TowerTalk wrote:
Theoretically infinite.  I = 0, therefore V = infinite with any power at the tip.

In theory (!) all the power would have been radiated by the time you get to the tip - so zero voltage.


However the real case is very complex and depends on the environment and therefore the actual impedance at the tip caused by capacitive end effects, etc.   I don't believe there is a simple solution.

Larry / W1DYJ
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On 10/4/2022 11:21, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
I'd be interested in this.  I think the answer is fairly straightforward, depending on how far the end is (electrically) from the feedpoint, but specifics escape me.

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On 10/4/2022 11:07 AM, jim.thom jim.thom@telus.net wrote:
Ok, simple question.  With 1.5 kw (measured at feedpoint)  applied to the 50 ohm input  of the (full sized) dipole / yagi... what is the PEAK V at
the tips ?   Assume 1:1 swr at the feedpoint.

Same question, but ant is not full size, and may have various forms of
loading schemes used.  (Say 50-80%) of full size.


Ok, what about  a single, full size  1/4 wave vertical ? Or a loaded
vertical ?


I can't find a straight answer anywhere.
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