At 01:22 PM 11/27/2002 -0500, Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
>Whoa, Ed!
Thanks for the info Gene! I'll reel myself back in. It is nice to know
people who know people in the right places..
>Before bemoaning the disappearance of the QSO/grid square leaders, Regional
>Leaders, Division Leaders, etc. we should do some checking. According to
>what I learned this morning at ARRL the Web results as posted are incomplete
>and all these accoutrements will be added in a very few days [No -- don't
>call Dan Henderson - he's not there until next week]. So we should all
>relax for a while and see if this is really the case.
I wish that there had been a message place on the page that the report is
NOT complete - what were we to think? I'm very happy that you found out
that there is more coming - that is certainly is good news.
>Looking at Ev's 'expanded' line scores, much of that is already available on
>the Web though I admit it is not necessarily obvious that it's there. Ev's
>line scores contain HAAT, MSL, total score, category, band scores for each
>entry, power/band, and antenna/band. Basically much of that is already on
>the ARRL Web line scores. This includes score, category, Q/grids/band [from
>DC to daylight] AND the ability to sort the results so that you can see how
>your score compares to all other entries in your Division, category or
>whatever sort you want to do. With the ability to download your sorts as
>CSV or Tab delimited files as Geo Fremin and others have so ably pointed
>out.
Yep, the ability to due multiple sorts is nice - I played with that
functionality a little yesterday and it is impressive.
>What is missing is some of the ancillary details that Ev provides. These
>could be gathered if there were still summary files and these sum files were
>modified by ALL of the software writers to include boxes for that
>information - like HAAT, MSL, etc, but it is much more difficult when
>dealing with Cabrillo files not at least in part because no one wants to add
>anything extraneous to their Cabrillo header section lest they enter the
>dance of death with the Robot [similar to the blue screen of death in
>Windoze] But the bottom line is that the critical information is there but
>arrayed in a way that takes a little thought to extract. That is the price
>we pay for 'progress' and the not inconsiderable savings in paper in QST
>itself.
>
>Wait and likely we will be rewarded.
Okay!
73,
Ed K3DNE
>73 Gene W3ZZ
>World Above 50 MHz
>FM19jd MD
>50 => 10 GHz
>Grid Pirates Contest Group K8GP
>Member, CQWW Contest Advisory Group
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ed Kucharski" <k3dne@adelphia.net>
>To: <vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu>; <pvrc@mailman.qth.net>;
><VHFcontesting@contesting.com>
>Cc: <dhenderson@arrl.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:47 PM
>Subject: [VHFcontesting] June VHF WEB REPORT now available
>
>
> > Well, if I was a little disappointed yesterday with the new format QST
> > report of the June VHF QSO Party then today I am very disappointed with
>the
> > Web Report. It is the same as the QST write-up! Same article, same
> > pics. A different looking top ten box than in the QST report. No
>expanded
> > results (yes I know the scores are available and are sortable). What
> > about the time honored tradition of having boxes for the QSO and
>Multiplier
> > leaders by band (that is even in the January VHF SS web report), Regional
> > Leaders, Division Leaders and plaque winners? Check out the June 2001
>web
> > reports for a much more comprehensive report. There is a lot more ARRL
> > could present here and I was under the impression that the web report
>would
> > be bigger and better than what used to be in QST.
> > I sure hope this is a work in progress and not the final product!
> > To give everyone an idea of what the ARRL could do - check out W2EV's
> > example of an expanded results page
> > at: http://www.rochesterny.org/BEACONet/line-scores/line-score.htm
> >
> > 73,
> > Ed K3DNE
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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