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Re: [VHFcontesting] What was the true intent of the changes?

To: "'frank bechdoldt'" <k3uhf@hotmail.com>, <k4gun@comcast.net>, <jamesduffy@comcastnet.com>, <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] What was the true intent of the changes?
From: "Jim Worsham" <wa4kxy@bellsouth.net>
Reply-to: wa4kxy@bellsouth.net
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:53:08 -0400
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I don't recall anyone in the VUAC saying that we would not revisit the rover
rules in the future.  As a matter of fact we specifically said that we would
wait a year or two to see how things worked out and then suggest additional
changes to the rover rules if needed.  We have moved onto other things in
the meantime.  I think you would all agree that it is not a good use of our
time to sit around and do nothing while we wait to see what happens with the
rover rules.  The intent of the rules changes put in place this year was to
address concerns that had been expressed by many with regards to the rover
rules, especially with regards to grid circling.  It was our intent that by
creating an unlimited rover class and then putting a 100 Q limit on contacts
between two rovers in the other two classes (classic and limited) that would
encourage the folks that like to pack rove and/or grid circle to operate in
the unlimited class.  We may or may not have succeeded in doing that.
Frankly, I am taking a wait and see attitude on this.  All we have now is a
sample of exactly two contests (January and June) and a bunch of controversy
based on some comments made in one entrants soap box.

73
Jim, W4KXY
VUAC Southeastern Division Representative

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Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 5:47 PM
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Subject: [VHFcontesting] What was the true intent of the changes?


I don't mean to pick on a volenteer.  I think we thought there was a
comprimise here or a gentelman's agreement. When I say write the contest
comittee it's because some in the VUAC said they are not going to address it
again.  The entire contest and the awards and ect are a living document and
change as practices and technology change.
 
The A in VUAC is  Advisory and its just that, they offered advice, the ARRl
made the final decision. I'm now unclear if they meant to clean it up. If
that was the intent then work is needed. If it wasnt the intent then it is
what it is and team roving and grid circling has became 3 times as rewarding
as result. Perhaps that was the intent and I was wrong.
 
What was the true intent of the rule change?
If rules dictate behavior, has the goal been met?
 
Thats the unfortunate thing of declairing mission acomplished and moving on.
The effort is appriciated even if the intent isnt understood.




From: k4gun@comcast.netTo: k3uhf@hotmail.com; jamesduffy@comcastnet.com;
vhfcontesting@contesting.comSubject: Re: [VHFcontesting] to answer the other
question.Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:14:44 +0000
This is perhaps the best summary I have seen to describe what I see as the
problem.  I commend the VUAC for making an attempt to clean it up and I
don't think there's any need to criticize their efforts.  I'm hoping that
they see that a little more tweaking is needed.  
 
Steve
 
-------------- Original message -------------- From: frank bechdoldt
<k3uhf@hotmail.com> > > The rules have watered this down some, you need to
have a bigger team to do the > same thing and the team can now feed off each
other to dominate 3 rover classes. > > If this is a competition where you
hope to achieve something and compair your > efforts to others then it is
truely pointless as long as this is allowed to go > on. If you are in it for
fun or to help hand out grids, then its good. But many > of us would like to
compete on a level playing field where we dont have to round > up a half
dozen buddies to rack up a decent score. > >
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