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Re: [VHFcontesting] VHF logs made public

To: 'VHF' <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>, "Chet, N8RA" <chetsubaccount@snet.net>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] VHF logs made public
From: Paul Kiesel <k7cw@yahoo.com>
Reply-to: k7cw@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:56:20 -0800 (PST)
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Chet,

It's worth 2 cents to me. You make a good argument for not having open logs. 
According to KR7O, the ARRL has already explained why they have elected to not 
have open logs. Sounds good to me.

73,
Paul, K7CW


--- On Thu, 12/4/08, Chet, N8RA <chetsubaccount@snet.net> wrote:

> From: Chet, N8RA <chetsubaccount@snet.net>
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] VHF logs made public
> To: "'VHF'" <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
> Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 6:17 PM
> I see open logs as a mixed bag. 
> 
> On the plus side, seeing other’s log details can have
> these benefits:
> 
> It has the possibility of reducing cheating. But all logs
> would have to be
> made open for this to work.
> It could help you understand why another station scored as
> they did to help
> you decide whether they are really “your” competition
> or not.  
> It could provide further incentive to improve the quality
> of operating and
> logging if all could see your claimed vs. final published
> score. Golden logs
> vs. crummy ones
> Provides more insight into what areas your competitor beat
> you in; this can
> be motivation to keep looking for another few dB, or adding
> another band.
> (Scanning the QSO and Mult breakdowns per band in the ARRL
> scores database
> does allow that too.)
> 
> But public logs would also reveal:
> 
> When did I CQ vs. S&P, or both?
> How often do I change beam direction?
> When was I on which band?
> How often did I change bands?
> Which grids produced the most contacts and on which bands?
> Did I work WSJT? If so, who did I work?  And on which band?
> And at what time
> of day?
> When was the best time to catch those VE2 multipliers?
> Did I sleep? If so, when did I start up again?
> How does the rate vary throughout the day?
> 
> Anyone can learn all those things on their own if willing
> to put in the
> effort; why would I want to hand out my hard-learned
> strategies and tactics
> to any armchair or deep-pockets competitors? I do consider
> contest station
> building and operating as serious fun, but I do openly
> trade stories and
> projects and tips with competitors on the air, in person,
> or in one to one
> e-mail- that is fun too. But to just put out the log for
> open analysis by
> anyone, anywhere, anytime has a different feel to it. Am I
> kidding myself
> that I am developing better strategies? Maybe, but that is
> part of what
> keeps me coming back again and again to beat my head
> against the wall, and
> to love doing so. 
> 
> Just my 2 cents, (probably only worth 1 ½ now…)
> 
> 73, hope to CU in January, where I want to contact lots of
> stations in lots
> of grids!!
> Chet, N8RA
> 
> 
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