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Re: [VHFcontesting] [VHF] Re: [nfarl] 2 Meter AM

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] [VHF] Re: [nfarl] 2 Meter AM
From: Keith Morehouse <w9rm@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:34:57 -0800 (PST)
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In EN52 this summer and early Autumn, I noticed quite a bit of AM activity.  I 
think it was a organized group, somewhere down to the SE.

UNFORTUNATELY, they decided to do it on 144.140 - the WSJT M/S calling 
frequency.....

Jay W9RM


----- Original Message ----
From: sjolin <sjolin@swbell.net>
To: Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@gmail.com>; VHF REFLECTOR <vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu>
Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 2:26:03 PM
Subject: Re: [VHF] Re: [nfarl] 2 Meter AM

In many parts of the country, certainly here in the Midwest, you could have ten 
different AM qso's underway in the SSB section of the band and unless the band 
was open or someone landed on the calling frequency, no one would notice.

73 de Dave, N0IT

----- Original Message ----- From: "Zack Widup" <w9sz.zack@gmail.com>
To: "VHF REFLECTOR" <vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [VHF] Re: [nfarl] 2 Meter AM


> The list that Bill posted is mostly guidelines for different modes unless
> you are putting in a repeater, in which case it needs to be coordinated.
> 
> If a frequency or band of frequencies does not seem to be used in your area,
> I don't know why you couldn't use it for AM, possibly avoiding the weak
> signal, EME, beacon and satellite bands where the people who use those have
> receivers that can hear far weaker signals than anyone else.
> 
> I myself have not heard an AM signal on 2m since maybe the mid-70's.
> 
> 73, Zack W9SZ
> 
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:03 PM, gregory parker <gregparker69@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> their are not many who use AM any more so there are not going to set aside
>> a spectrum that does not get used on a regular basis. so i would use :
>> 145.50-145.80 Miscellaneous and experimental modes.  or the high end of the
>> side band segment, There is no law i know of saying you cannot use AM there.
>> 
>> Greg Parker
>> K8GJP
>> gregparker69@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 12, 2010, at 2:50 PM, William M. Pasternak wrote:
>> 
>> In looking at the ARRL 2 meter bandplan (below), there appears to be no
>>> provision made for AM.  Not even a "local option" frequency.
>>> 
>>> Maybe this should be addressed at the ARRL BoD meeting next week.  Who
>>> wants to write the e-mail?
>>> 
>>> de
>>> WA6ITF
>>> 
>>> 144.00-144.05EME (CW)
>>> 144.05-144.10General CW and weak signals
>>> 144.10-144.20EME and weak-signal SSB
>>> 144.200National calling frequency
>>> 144.200-144.275General SSB operation
>>> 144.275-144.300Propagation beacons
>>> 144.30-144.50New OSCAR subband
>>> 144.50-144.60Linear translator inputs
>>> 144.60-144.90FM repeater inputs
>>> 144.90-145.10Weak signal and FM simplex (145.01,03,05,07,09 are widely
>>> used for packet)
>>> 145.10-145.20Linear translator outputs
>>> 145.20-145.50FM repeater outputs
>>> 145.50-145.80Miscellaneous and experimental modes
>>> 145.80-146.00OSCAR subband
>>> 146.01-146.37Repeater inputs
>>> 146.40-146.58Simplex
>>> 146.52National Simplex Calling Frequency
>>> 146.61-146.97Repeater outputs
>>> 147.00-147.39Repeater outputs
>>> 147.42-147.57Simplex
>>> 147.60-147.99Repeater inputs
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At 02:41 PM 1/12/2010 -0500, Russ Pillsbury wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In the good ole days much of the AM operation was on 145.0 to 145.1.  I
>>>> suggest (tic) that you use the same frequencys now.  From what I hear the
>>>> repeaters are mostly empty these days so they probably won't even notice
>>>> you.
>>>> 
>>>> 73, Russ K2TXB
>>>> 
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: owner-vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu
>>>> > [mailto:owner-vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Mantell
>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:08 PM
>>>> > To: nfarl@yahoogroups.com
>>>> > Cc: vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu; VHFcontesting@contesting.com;
>>>> > fourlanders@contesting.com
>>>> > Subject: [VHF] Re: [nfarl] 2 Meter AM
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi John,
>>>> > B
>>>> > B I do not know the answer, but would be interested in it, so
>>>> > I have forwarded your emailB  question out to some of the
>>>> > local and national groups that are VHF in nature.
>>>> > B
>>>> > I have some 2 meterB  tube AM gear also, including a CD
>>>> > Gonset rig with matching amp.B  I will be interested in QSOs with > you.
>>>> >
>>>> > B
>>>> > I will forward you the answers as I get them, B Bob
>>>> >
>>>> > 73 de Bob,
>>>> > B
>>>> > B K4ESA EM74qc
>>>> > B
>>>> > Bob Mantell
>>>> > k4esa@yahoo.com
>>>> > B
>>>> >
>>>> > --- On Tue, 1/12/10, John <johnnykludt@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > From: John <johnnykludt@earthlink.net>
>>>> > Subject: [nfarl] 2 Meter AM
>>>> > To: nfarl@yahoogroups.com
>>>> > Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 6:43 PM
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > B
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Folks,
>>>> >
>>>> > I am interested in putting some of my restored 2 meter AM
>>>> > gear back on the air. Most of it is crystal controlled and so
>>>> > picking the right frequency is important. Unfortunately while
>>>> > on 6 the amateur radio community has settled on 50.4MHz for
>>>> > AM work no such consensus seems to exist for 2 meters. I can
>>>> > find no published standard for GA or the Southeast. According
>>>> > to "The AM Window" ( www.amwindow. org/freg. htm ) NYC-Long
>>>> > Island uses 144.28 MHz and LA uses
>>>> > 144.265 Mhz. The problem I see with 144.28 MHz is the
>>>> > presence of beacons in CO, VA, QC, ON, NB, TN and TX on the
>>>> > same frequency. The frequency used in LA is on the high end
>>>> > of the general SSB assignment (144.200 MHz to 144.275 MHz)
>>>> > and seems a good possibility.
>>>> >
>>>> > So my question, especially to those of you who operate 2
>>>> > meter SSB is would AM operations in North GA on 144.265 MHz
>>>> > cause inordinate problems? If so, is there another 2 meter AM
>>>> > frequency already in use in GA/North GA and if so, what is
>>>> > it? Or is there another frequency that you can suggest?
>>>> >
>>>> > Two meters has always been a popular band. Before FM and SSB
>>>> > came along, it was the place many of us got started on AM
>>>> > phone. There is lots of vintage 2 meter AM gear out there. It
>>>> > would be fun to get some of it back on the air.
>>>> >
>>>> > Please advise,
>>>> >
>>>> > John, K7SYS
>>>> >
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