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Re: [WriteLog] CQP Cabrillo Errors

To: "Larry Benko" <xxw0qe@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] CQP Cabrillo Errors
From: "Garry Shapiro" <garry@ni6t.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:52:53 -0700
List-post: <mailto:writelog@contesting.com>
Larry:

Kevin, WB6S tells me you two have discussed this, and that there is no
contention here. Yes, SDGO is the old abbreviation for San Diego County and
it is apparently the case that many participants from that county prefer
it--and used it. Again, this is not a problem. I doubt there is a county set
that would satisfy everyone. The complaining operator apparently felt that
the County Hunters list should be binding upon CQP; I disagreed, and I was
not on the committee making the decision, just another participant.

Garry, NI6T

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Benko [mailto:xxw0qe@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:51 PM
To: Garry Shapiro
Cc: writelog@contesting.com; NCCC
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] CQP Cabrillo Errors


Garry,

By the way the county hunter (MARAC) abbreviation for San Diego is NOT
SDIE but is SDGO.  The CA QP folks did not use the MARAC list but about
80% of the abbreviations did match.  No one that I am aware of talked
the CAQP folks into using our abbreviations even though they were
certainly welcome to do so.  The MARAC contest with 3077 possible
multipliers has a much larger need for some end to the abbreviation
chaos than any state QSO party does.  For example we needed to uniquely
abbreviate Washington, Washburn, Washita, Washoe, Washtenaw or Greene,
Greenlee, Greensville, Greenup, Greenville, Greenwood counties.

I did design the abbreviations that the county hunters use in their
contest but I really didn't think that state QSO parties needed to adopt
our abbreviations.  However for regional QSO parties such as the 7th
Area or New England there might be a desire.

73,
Larry, W0QE


Garry Shapiro wrote:

>Ed:
>
>With all due respect...
>
>CQP is a contest created, organized, sponsored, administered and promoted
by
>the Northern California Contest Club. CQP is NOT an event sponsored or
>administered by County Hunters. How the California counties are abbreviated
>for CQP is the province of the contest organizers, who do not require the
>sanction, approval or permission of any other organization in any other
>State or country.
>
>The four-letter abbreviations instituted this year were intended to enhance
>and optimize the CQP experience by elimination of ambiguities in the
>original set, and were carefully studied, discussed and argued before
>adoption. The organizers recognized that the transition might initially
>surprise some participants, that some would prefer the old set and that the
>extensive pre-event publicity given to the changes might not reach every
>participant. I heard many experienced participants--some
>intentionally--using the old set, e.g. SDGO instead of SDIE for San Diego
>County.
>
>For Writelog, all that was required was to replace the previous
namedmul.ini
>file with the latest one. That file is available on the Writelog site under
>downloads: http://www.writelog.com/Downloads/Namedmul12Jun2006.zip
>
>In addition, a printable list of all abbreviations--the 58 California
>counties and the 58 W and VE states and provinces--is available in large
>type from the CQP page, at http://www.cqp.org/pdf/cqp_mults.pdf
>
>For those who were unaware of the changes---no problem! There is no penalty
>for having used part or all of the old set--the log check software will
take
>care of it.
>
>Experienced contesters are well aware that updates to both program and
>support files are regularly released, both to improve functionality and to
>reflect changes in the world. Just as any enlightened user will check for
>updates and install the latest .cty files before, say, CQWW, he will
>likewise seek out the latest files for any other contest he plans to work.
>
>Garry, NI6T
>(operated N6IJ in MONT)
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: writelog-bounces@contesting.com
>[mailto:writelog-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Ed
>Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 11:50 AM
>To: writelog@contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [WriteLog] CQP Cabrillo Errors
>
>
>"Mike McCarthy, W1NR" wrote:
>In addition, I was unable to get WriteLog to recognize most of the
>official 4 character county designators.  It appears WriteLog still
>wants them in the old format.
>----------------------------------
>I don't remember a posting anywhere saying that group of 4 by the
>W6 fellows is "official". And I will respectfully submit that the
>list of county abbreviations maintained by the "County Hunters"
>group is the one to use.
>
>And I specifically don't remember any mention by the abbreviations
>group giving them authority to make the changes.
>
>Perhaps they should have consulted with the other 48 States who have
>county designations.
>
>73
>Ed
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