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Re: [WriteLog] WriteLog Digest, Vol 124, Issue 9

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Subject: Re: [WriteLog] WriteLog Digest, Vol 124, Issue 9
From: "DickT-W0RAA" <dickt@w0raa.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:57:19 -0600
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Ed, to answer your question on freezing, YES, I have experienced it using XP/SP3.
So far 2Tone has been a huge PITA.  But, one way or the other I will get it 
going,
and hope I can get some help.

I left a message with Subject: Help! and I hope somebody can.

Dick
W0RAA
dickt [at] w0raa.com



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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 09:14:04 -0700
From: Ed Muns <w0yk@msn.com>
To: "'Jerry Pixton'" <jpixton@shentel.net>
Cc: writelog@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Can not switch TNC???
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP149DF70DCCFA7E1417EB41D90DF0@phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Jerry W6IHG wrote:
 From the mail I think several of us are having the same
problem with 11.10.

The basic problem is rttyrite freezes up when its tnc menu is touched.
Yes, this has been reported by several people here on the reflector.  I 
also
experience this once in a while when I'm stressing the software with my
testing on various PCs.  THE SOLUTION THAT HAS ALWAYS WORKED FOR ME IS TO:

1.  CLOSE WRITELOG.
2.  OPEN WRITELOG.INI WITH A TEXT EDITOR.  (WRITELOG.INI IS IN THE WINDOWS
DIRECTORY ON XP AND EARLIER.  ON VISTA AND LATER, USE THE LINK TO
WRITELOG.INI ON THE WRITELOG MENU IN YOUR PROGRAMS MENU FROM THE WINDOWS
START BUTTON.)
3.  FIND ALL [Rttyrite...] SECTIONS AND DELETE THEM  SAVE WRITELOG.INI AND
EXIT THE TEXT EDITOR.
4.  OPEN WRITELOG AND SETUP YOUR RTTYRITE WINDOW(S) AGAIN.

NOTE: DON AND I SUSPECT THIS PROBLEM IS COMMON TO VISTA/WINDOWS 7/WINDOWS 8 SYSTEMS THAT USE THE VIRTUALSTORE. IT WOULD HELP US TRACK DOWN THE PROBLEM IF THIS IS TRUE. HAS ANYONE HAD THE FREEZE ISSUE ON WINDOWS XP (OR EARLIER
OS)?

I ALSO SUSPECT IT MAY ONLY HAPPEN WHEN YOU START WRITELOG THE FIRST TIME
AFTER AN INSTALL OR UPGRADE.  PLEASE ALSO CONFIRM OR DENY THIS?

Sorry for the caps.  I don't mean to shout, but several of us have posted
this advice many times in the last four days and it doesn't seem to be
noticed.   ;>)

I am just trying to get mmtty plug-in to work the same as it
has for me in 11.08.
Upgrading to 11.10G should require nothing unless you incur the freezing
problem. MMTTY with the MMTTY Plug-In will continue to work without change.
Make sure 'MMTTY' is checked on the Rttyrite TNC menu.  Do not use the
XMMT.ocx menu choice if you want to use the MMTTY Plug-In.

This morning, I uninstalled 11.08 again (after making a
backup) because it went in the wrong directory yesterday.

I then installed 11.10 in c:\HamPrograms\Writelog\ I deleted
the [rttyrite] and [rttyrite2] sections from the writelog.ini
in ...virtualStore... and saved it.

I then started writelog and opened a rttyrite window. Then
selected mmtty. Had to point to the proper directory (I did
not reinstall mmtty).
The rtty control panel for mmtty opened.

But as soon as I try to go to TNC Setup to adjust the mmtty
appearance, rttyrite freezes!

When I also go to the Stereo Soundboard AFSK option, rttyrite
freezes (that was the original problem I had).

And somewhere along the line I had to reinstall the mmtty
plugin because I was getting errors messages about "failed to
create custom ... tnc header"

Also I have been unable to save the size and location of the
rttyrite window using the Save Configuration option.

I deleted the writelog.ini in ...virtualStore... to let
writelog build a new one. But that did not solve the problem.

So basically I can not get back to the configuration of mmtty
that I had with 11.08.

Any ideas???? Meanwhile I have regressed back to writelog 11.08
I assume your OS is Vista or later since you mention VirtualStore.  If I
understand the description of your actions and problems, it sounds like you did not delete the [Rttyrite...] sections in writelog.ini after you got the
freeze.  I understand you deleted the entire writelog.ini.  That's not the
same thing, so please try the instructions above when you encounter the
freeze.  Your goal, after a freeze, is to edit the working writelog.ini
file, not delete it.  Deleting it probably means that WriteLog reverts to
initializing with the default writelog.ini file stored in Windows in an
earlier installation.

I'm also a bit nervous about multiple installations of WriteLog in different directories. I don't know how the Registry and VirtualStore behave in that
case.  If it were me, I'd uninstall all of them and only have one on the
computer at a time.

Someone commented re: cleaning the registry values. Is that necessary?
I haven't heard this and I would relegate this to a last resort and only 
if
you get clear instructions from someone really understands what to do. 
For
me, the only person I'd trust is W5XD.

Ed W0YK



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:06:22 +0000
From: Jerry Pixton <jpixton@shentel.net>
To: w0yk@msn.com
Cc: writelog@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Can not switch TNC???
Message-ID: <515B3A3E.6060606@shentel.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

ED, et al

Please notice that I did follow the advice being given and removed the
[rttyrite...] sections in the writelog.ini in the virtual store
location. That did not help. So then I removed the entire writelog.ini
to let writelog rebuild. That did not work either!

This is a Windows 7 Pro platform.

In the two attempts I have made, I have restarted writelog many times
and each time I open a mmtty-plug-in window and then try to either
change the TNC settings from rttyrite or try to close the mmtty window
by changing tnc to stereo soundboard AFSK rttyrite freezes requiring
Task Manager to kill it. The mmtty window will then close ok.

So it is more than the first time writelog is started after an install.
This was a full install (over writelog 11.08) as my key had expired. So
I don't know what happens with just an upgrade.

One full install was to the ...Program Files... location and one was to
my c:\HamPrograms directory.

What other tests can I do to help locate this issue?

In rereading our messages carefully, I do see a slight difference in
what I did vs what you said. I believe I deleted the [rtty...] sections
before starting writelog and rttyrite - not after the first freeze and
kill process step.

I do not have multiple versions of writelog in different directories - I
did uninstall when I want to put writelog back where I wanted in
c:\HamPrograms.

Thanks to everyone who is trying to sort this out.

Jerry, W6IHG


On 4/2/2013 4:14 PM, Ed Muns wrote:
Jerry W6IHG wrote:
  From the mail I think several of us are having the same
problem with 11.10.

The basic problem is rttyrite freezes up when its tnc menu is touched.
Yes, this has been reported by several people here on the reflector.  I 
also
experience this once in a while when I'm stressing the software with my
testing on various PCs. THE SOLUTION THAT HAS ALWAYS WORKED FOR ME IS TO:
1.  CLOSE WRITELOG.
2. OPEN WRITELOG.INI WITH A TEXT EDITOR. (WRITELOG.INI IS IN THE WINDOWS
DIRECTORY ON XP AND EARLIER.  ON VISTA AND LATER, USE THE LINK TO
WRITELOG.INI ON THE WRITELOG MENU IN YOUR PROGRAMS MENU FROM THE WINDOWS
START BUTTON.)
3. FIND ALL [Rttyrite...] SECTIONS AND DELETE THEM SAVE WRITELOG.INI AND
EXIT THE TEXT EDITOR.
4.  OPEN WRITELOG AND SETUP YOUR RTTYRITE WINDOW(S) AGAIN.

NOTE: DON AND I SUSPECT THIS PROBLEM IS COMMON TO VISTA/WINDOWS 7/WINDOWS 8 SYSTEMS THAT USE THE VIRTUALSTORE. IT WOULD HELP US TRACK DOWN THE PROBLEM IF THIS IS TRUE. HAS ANYONE HAD THE FREEZE ISSUE ON WINDOWS XP (OR EARLIER
OS)?

I ALSO SUSPECT IT MAY ONLY HAPPEN WHEN YOU START WRITELOG THE FIRST TIME
AFTER AN INSTALL OR UPGRADE.  PLEASE ALSO CONFIRM OR DENY THIS?

Sorry for the caps.  I don't mean to shout, but several of us have posted
this advice many times in the last four days and it doesn't seem to be
noticed.   ;>)

I am just trying to get mmtty plug-in to work the same as it
has for me in 11.08.
Upgrading to 11.10G should require nothing unless you incur the freezing
problem. MMTTY with the MMTTY Plug-In will continue to work without change.
Make sure 'MMTTY' is checked on the Rttyrite TNC menu.  Do not use the
XMMT.ocx menu choice if you want to use the MMTTY Plug-In.

This morning, I uninstalled 11.08 again (after making a
backup) because it went in the wrong directory yesterday.

I then installed 11.10 in c:\HamPrograms\Writelog\ I deleted
the [rttyrite] and [rttyrite2] sections from the writelog.ini
in ...virtualStore... and saved it.

I then started writelog and opened a rttyrite window. Then
selected mmtty. Had to point to the proper directory (I did
not reinstall mmtty).
The rtty control panel for mmtty opened.

But as soon as I try to go to TNC Setup to adjust the mmtty
appearance, rttyrite freezes!

When I also go to the Stereo Soundboard AFSK option, rttyrite
freezes (that was the original problem I had).

And somewhere along the line I had to reinstall the mmtty
plugin because I was getting errors messages about "failed to
create custom ... tnc header"

Also I have been unable to save the size and location of the
rttyrite window using the Save Configuration option.

I deleted the writelog.ini in ...virtualStore... to let
writelog build a new one. But that did not solve the problem.

So basically I can not get back to the configuration of mmtty
that I had with 11.08.

Any ideas???? Meanwhile I have regressed back to writelog 11.08
I assume your OS is Vista or later since you mention VirtualStore.  If I
understand the description of your actions and problems, it sounds like you did not delete the [Rttyrite...] sections in writelog.ini after you got the freeze. I understand you deleted the entire writelog.ini. That's not the
same thing, so please try the instructions above when you encounter the
freeze.  Your goal, after a freeze, is to edit the working writelog.ini
file, not delete it.  Deleting it probably means that WriteLog reverts to
initializing with the default writelog.ini file stored in Windows in an
earlier installation.

I'm also a bit nervous about multiple installations of WriteLog in different directories. I don't know how the Registry and VirtualStore behave in that
case.  If it were me, I'd uninstall all of them and only have one on the
computer at a time.

Someone commented re: cleaning the registry values. Is that necessary?
I haven't heard this and I would relegate this to a last resort and only 
if
you get clear instructions from someone really understands what to do. 
For
me, the only person I'd trust is W5XD.

Ed W0YK


--
-----------------------------------------------
Dr. Jerry R. Pixton, PIXOS Designs
http://www.shentel.net/pixosdesigns/RadioTuner/
jpixton@shentel.net
-----------------------------------------------


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 13:19:32 -0700
From: Ed Muns <w0yk@msn.com>
To: "'Jerry Pixton'" <jpixton@shentel.net>
Cc: writelog@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Can not switch TNC???
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1190BACFE872BB38D449B1290DF0@phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Thanks for the clarification, Jerry.  That answers all my questions about
your configuration and process.  I see nothing wrong.  I want to do some
re-testing and see if I can reproduce what you and others are reporting.

Ed W0YK




Jerry W6IHG wrote:
Please notice that I did follow the advice being given and
removed the [rttyrite...] sections in the writelog.ini in the
virtual store location. That did not help. So then I removed
the entire writelog.ini to let writelog rebuild. That did not
work either!

This is a Windows 7 Pro platform.

In the two attempts I have made, I have restarted writelog
many times and each time I open a mmtty-plug-in window and
then try to either change the TNC settings from rttyrite or
try to close the mmtty window by changing tnc to stereo
soundboard AFSK rttyrite freezes requiring Task Manager to
kill it. The mmtty window will then close ok.

So it is more than the first time writelog is started after
an install.
This was a full install (over writelog 11.08) as my key had
expired. So I don't know what happens with just an upgrade.

One full install was to the ...Program Files... location and
one was to my c:\HamPrograms directory.

What other tests can I do to help locate this issue?

In rereading our messages carefully, I do see a slight
difference in what I did vs what you said. I believe I
deleted the [rtty...] sections before starting writelog and
rttyrite - not after the first freeze and kill process step.

I do not have multiple versions of writelog in different
directories - I did uninstall when I want to put writelog
back where I wanted in c:\HamPrograms.

Thanks to everyone who is trying to sort this out.

Jerry, W6IHG


On 4/2/2013 4:14 PM, Ed Muns wrote:
> Jerry W6IHG wrote:
>>   From the mail I think several of us are having the same problem
>> with 11.10.
>>
>> The basic problem is rttyrite freezes up when its tnc menu
is touched.
>
> Yes, this has been reported by several people here on the
reflector.
> I also experience this once in a while when I'm stressing
the software
> with my testing on various PCs.  THE SOLUTION THAT HAS
ALWAYS WORKED FOR ME IS TO:
>
> 1.  CLOSE WRITELOG.
> 2.  OPEN WRITELOG.INI WITH A TEXT EDITOR.  (WRITELOG.INI IS IN THE
> WINDOWS DIRECTORY ON XP AND EARLIER.  ON VISTA AND LATER,
USE THE LINK
> TO WRITELOG.INI ON THE WRITELOG MENU IN YOUR PROGRAMS MENU FROM THE
> WINDOWS START BUTTON.) 3.  FIND ALL [Rttyrite...] SECTIONS
AND DELETE
> THEM  SAVE WRITELOG.INI AND EXIT THE TEXT EDITOR.
> 4.  OPEN WRITELOG AND SETUP YOUR RTTYRITE WINDOW(S) AGAIN.
>
> NOTE:  DON AND I SUSPECT THIS PROBLEM IS COMMON TO VISTA/WINDOWS
> 7/WINDOWS 8 SYSTEMS THAT USE THE VIRTUALSTORE.  IT WOULD
HELP US TRACK
> DOWN THE PROBLEM IF THIS IS TRUE.  HAS ANYONE HAD THE
FREEZE ISSUE ON
> WINDOWS XP (OR EARLIER OS)?
>
> I ALSO SUSPECT IT MAY ONLY HAPPEN WHEN YOU START WRITELOG THE FIRST
> TIME AFTER AN INSTALL OR UPGRADE.  PLEASE ALSO CONFIRM OR DENY THIS?
>
> Sorry for the caps.  I don't mean to shout, but several of us have
> posted this advice many times in the last four days and it
doesn't seem to be
> noticed.   ;>)
>
>> I am just trying to get mmtty plug-in to work the same as
it has for
>> me in 11.08.
>
> Upgrading to 11.10G should require nothing unless you incur the
> freezing problem.  MMTTY with the MMTTY Plug-In will
continue to work without change.
> Make sure 'MMTTY' is checked on the Rttyrite TNC menu.  Do
not use the
> XMMT.ocx menu choice if you want to use the MMTTY Plug-In.
>
>> This morning, I uninstalled 11.08 again (after making a
>> backup) because it went in the wrong directory yesterday.
>>
>> I then installed 11.10 in c:\HamPrograms\Writelog\ I deleted the
>> [rttyrite] and [rttyrite2] sections from the writelog.ini in
>> ...virtualStore... and saved it.
>>
>> I then started writelog and opened a rttyrite window. Then
selected
>> mmtty. Had to point to the proper directory (I did not reinstall
>> mmtty).
>> The rtty control panel for mmtty opened.
>>
>> But as soon as I try to go to TNC Setup to adjust the mmtty
>> appearance, rttyrite freezes!
>>
>> When I also go to the Stereo Soundboard AFSK option,
rttyrite freezes
>> (that was the original problem I had).
>>
>> And somewhere along the line I had to reinstall the mmtty plugin
>> because I was getting errors messages about "failed to
create custom
>> ... tnc header"
>>
>> Also I have been unable to save the size and location of
the rttyrite
>> window using the Save Configuration option.
>>
>> I deleted the writelog.ini in ...virtualStore... to let writelog
>> build a new one. But that did not solve the problem.
>>
>> So basically I can not get back to the configuration of
mmtty that I
>> had with 11.08.
>>
>> Any ideas???? Meanwhile I have regressed back to writelog 11.08
>
> I assume your OS is Vista or later since you mention
VirtualStore.  If
> I understand the description of your actions and problems,
it sounds
> like you did not delete the [Rttyrite...] sections in writelog.ini
> after you got the freeze.  I understand you deleted the entire
> writelog.ini.  That's not the same thing, so please try the
> instructions above when you encounter the freeze.  Your
goal, after a
> freeze, is to edit the working writelog.ini file, not delete it.
> Deleting it probably means that WriteLog reverts to
initializing with
> the default writelog.ini file stored in Windows in an
earlier installation.
>
> I'm also a bit nervous about multiple installations of WriteLog in
> different directories.  I don't know how the Registry and
VirtualStore
> behave in that case.  If it were me, I'd uninstall all of them and
> only have one on the computer at a time.
>
>> Someone commented re: cleaning the registry values. Is
that necessary?
>
> I haven't heard this and I would relegate this to a last resort and
> only if you get clear instructions from someone really understands
> what to do.  For me, the only person I'd trust is W5XD.
>
> Ed W0YK
>
>

--
-----------------------------------------------
Dr. Jerry R. Pixton, PIXOS Designs
http://www.shentel.net/pixosdesigns/RadioTuner/
jpixton@shentel.net
-----------------------------------------------
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 16:33:13 -0400
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
To: writelog@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] MMTTY/2Tone
Message-ID: <515B4089.9020809@subich.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed


> But when I clicked on XMMT.ocx nothing happened?

Checking XMMT.ocx enables "TNCs" supported by the XMMT.ocx interface.
Once you have done that you must select "Configure TNC" to set the
path to the exe you prefer - either MMTTY or 2Tone.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 4/2/2013 11:17 AM, k0bx@arrl.net wrote:
Thanks Steve, I removed the Rttyrite entries from the Writelog.ini and all is
well now
But when I clicked on XMMT.ocx nothing happened? But when I clicked on MMTTY,
it asked me for the location of MMTTY, and
after I gave it, MMTTY came up and is working fine. I guess I will have to
read  AA5AU's webpage before I go any farther.
Anyway thanks to you and Mike N0SO for the answer to my problem.

Joe K0BX

  #1 Honor Roll Mixed
Honor Roll RTTY


Stop the insanity!
Please do not add me to any distribution lists (Joke, Stories or Junk) without
my permission.




________________________________
From: Steve AI9T <steve@ai9t.com>
To: writelog@contesting.com
Sent: Tue, April 2, 2013 11:48:07 AM
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] MMTTY/2Tone

Joe

I had the same problem with my setup. You will need to remove the
[Rttyrite] and [Rttyrite2] sections from your Writelog.INI file in order
to proceed with your setup. Then pick the XMMT.ocx from the TU Type Drop
Down menu instead of MMTTY.


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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:26:53 -0400
From: Steve AI9T <steve@ai9t.com>
To: w0yk@msn.com, 'WriteLog Reflector' <writelog@contesting.com>
Subject: [WriteLog] Timing in Receive
Message-ID: <515B4D1D.9010708@ai9t.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Ed

I'm setting here copying some RTTY station on 20 meters. I am seeing a
hesitation in the print. WL is printing letters at 2 or 3 or 4 letters
at a time. I tried this with just MMTTY and N1MM and the print is fine.
I also tried this with Select BPS on and Off. No difference.

I checked my CPU usage it is mostly on 0

My computer is and Intel i5 3570k processor, 8 GB of RAM. SSD hard Drive.

--
73

Steve AI9T

http://www.ai9t.com

AI9T DX Cluster

Version 4 AI9T   Telnet: dxc.ai9t.com port 7300
Version 6 AI9T-2 Telnet: dxc.ai9t.com port 7373 (CW + Skimmer)



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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:35:54 -0600
From: "DickT-W0RAA" <dickt@w0raa.com>
To: "Writelog Reflector" <writelog@contesting.com>
Subject: [WriteLog] Help!
Message-ID: <1B52FAEFDE3A4EE7A896E3220CAAD8B9@890727fb58a94f5>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I am totally frustrated, as I guess others may well be also. I keep getting
one of those
Windows error messages that says the program needs to shut down and asks if
I want
to send a report to MS or not.  I usually choose NOT.

Don mentioned there is a section on his web site that shows how to setup
2Tone.  I am
not sure if it's finished or not.  I know Don has a life in addition to
2Tone.  I am
almost ready to forget 2Tone and just stick with MMTTY.

I deleted the [RTTYRITE] and [RTTYRITE2] Sections in Writelog.ini.  In the
new
version I find a [RTTYRITE] section but no [RTTYRITE2] section. I know this
is
probably an error on my part, but I am willing to accept any help that
anybody can
provide.  I'm running Windows XP/SP3.

My WriteLog Program is in C:\Program Files\Writelog folder. MMTTY has been
reinstalled and is in a C:\MMTTY folder and 2Tone is in a C:\2Tone folder.

Writelog and MMTTY are working together just fine, even after I reinstalled
MMTTY in the new C:\MMTTY folder.

I cannot get 2Tone to bring up a window showing the RX & TX graphs, etc.

My transceiver is a Yaesu FT-950 and I am also using a SignaLink USB
interface,
which has been working just fine.  So if assistance could come from one of
you
guys who has a similar setup, I'm sure my problem would get resolved
quickly.  I
had hoped I wouldn't have to send a "me too" e-mail (as another user called
it),
but now feel the need.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks & 73,

Dick - w0raa


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