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Re: [Amps] DTR-2000L

To: "Charles Harpole" <k4vud@hotmail.com>, <keepwalking188@yahoo.com>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] DTR-2000L
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 22:18:24 -0400
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And the Chinese version is half price of a new Eimac and very reliable from 
what Ive been told.

OTOH Eimac pulls are still around $300 with many being the 3CPX version.

Carl
KM1H

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Charles Harpole
To: keepwalking188@yahoo.com ; km1h@jeremy.mv.com ; amps@contesting.com
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 9:54 PM
Subject: DTR-2000L


Oh oh, I see Carl has a DTR-2000L... I thot mine was the last survivor of 
that line, hi.  It is one hot little box and drives like a race car.  AND, 
its tube is still made, I think.  73

Charles Harpole k4vud@hotmail.com



> From: keepwalking188@yahoo.com
> To: km1h@jeremy.mv.com; Amps@contesting.com
> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 20:07:56 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Do you think he'll get it?
>
> Carl,
>
> Oh, I thought the question was - will it bring $1200. Not rather, $2700. 
> Need more coffee I guess. My guess is $2200. I figure
> if mint A76pa's are coming in at $1500, the newer vintage of this box, 
> combined with the instant tune and hypersil has got to be
> worth $500 min. And I just paid $135 for the face plate on my A76pa, so I 
> know that clean face plate had to set him back the same.
>
> The LK is in a completely different class of heavy-metal. :)
>
> 73, Jeff ACØC
> www.ac0c.com
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Carl
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 7:36 PM
> To: Jeff Blaine ; Amps@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Do you think he'll get it?
>
> C'mon Jeff, its all in the timing; both with getting the amp and then the
> tubes at a hamfest. I picked up 3 more for spares from the same guy
> recently(-;
>
> I'll really rub it in; I have NIB spares for the MLA-2500, DTR-2000L, and
> NCL-2000 also. I wont own an amp or even a tube rig without having spare
> tubes on hand. Learned that the hard way 45 years ago when I lost a DX
> contest by a handful of multipliers thanks to no amp the last day.
>
> That $2750 is a bit steep considering a LK-800A brings $3000-3250 with the
> standard voltage external Hypersil transformer. About the same as the 78
> with the internal one. That is three 3CX800A7's. Add a bit more for the 
> dual
> voltage external iron and 3CPX versions which easily does 5KW.
>
> Carl
> KM1H
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff Blaine" <keepwalking188@yahoo.com>
> To: "Paul Christensen" <w9ac@arrl.net>; <Amps@contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 6:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Do you think he'll get it?
>
>
> Paul,
>
> Low 2's and in this condition? wish I had heard that before picking up my
> A76pa. But once you get over this $2's point, you start
> running into the new Ameritron at $3K discussion. Finding Alphas in this
> condition seems a tough demand to start with. You must
> have much better luck!
>
> I got a good deal (knew the owner) for that amp but found shopping around
> that guys are paying $1500 for the A76pa in top condition.
> With SB220's bringing about $800 on ebay so that made sense.
>
> The downside of these amps is the tubes which are hard to come by unless 
> you
> are Carl :) But with the ready option of retubing iwth
> 3cx800 pulls for $500 or so, and considering that the service life of a 
> 8874
> may outlast the next owner given decent grid drive
> care, I don't know that concern is a real worry.
>
> Seems to me this amp should fetch more giving it's pre-tune feature. I 
> have
> done some work with the owner (Scott) on his 2K - and I
> can say from personal experience he's a nut case for equipment care. Tried
> to gte him to look into some FT2K mods and he would have
> none of that! So I would guess the thing is in a very sweet condition.
>
> And send a bit of that luck this way if you can spare some. ha ha ha
>
> 73, Jeff ACØC
> www.ac0c.com
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Paul Christensen
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 4:43 PM
> To: Amps@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Do you think he'll get it?
>
> Roger,
>
> I've long thought that ETO's product evolution was a bit interesting. In
> the beginning, ETO produced the 70A, 70V, 77, 77D, 77Dx/Sx, all of which
> have remarkable circuit and cabinet similarities. Perhaps these early amps
> sold in low volume which, may have then sparked the more economical 
> designs
> of the 76, 374, and 78. Clearly, these amps were built with the
> value-oriented amateur in mind with cost savings in areas like:
>
> - Less expensive E core transformers with lower KVA ratings;
> - Less expensive metal work, although the chassis work is still in a class
> far above that of Ameritron, Heath and Dentron;
> - Lack of QSK;
> - Honeywell/Schadow switches in place of Switchcraft crossbar types;
> - Seemingly lesser-rated ceramic band switching;
> - Multiple, lower plate dissipation tubes.
>
> Today, I would likely steer away from the 76/374/78, especially at high
> prices. The Alpha 86 can generally be obtained in the low $2K range. I
> purchased one in new condition for that amount a couple years ago and it's
> significantly more robust than the 76, 374, and 78.
>
> It's shame Dick Ehrhorn is no longer active on this list. It would be
> interesting to hear his perspective on ETO's marketing thoughts going back
> to the early '70s.
>
> Paul, W9AC
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Roger (K8RI)" <sub1@rogerhalstead.com>
> To: <Amps@contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 5:12 PM
> Subject: [Amps] Do you think he'll get it?
>
>
> > It a very nice looking amp, but do you think he'll get his price for
> > this old Alpha 78?
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330490529382
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Roger (K8RI)
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