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Re: [Amps] Rivet-nuts

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Rivet-nuts
From: N7KA@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 00:53:25 +0000
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Will

Rivet-nuts (we call them rivnuts at work) are very good means of fastening 
hardware when it is difficult to attach with a regular nut.  Our use is from a 
10-32 screw into racks up to 3/6 for attaching racks to shelter walls.  Grip 
range from 0.020 to 0.250 inch.

We use mostly steel and  have used stainless steel (think about 500 in each 
item).

Depending upon the quantity you are going to use, please consider the "hand 
header" that is made for attaching the rivnut.  Its the best way, except for 
the very expensive air drive tools we use (about $8000.00).

When you purchase a rivnut it is important to specify the material thickness 
into which you will be using the rivnut.  You will find a range in which any 
specific part number rivnut can be used.

A rivnut when pulled up properly will expand behind the material it is inserted 
into and it is this expansion against the back to the material that pulls the 
head of the riv-nut against the front of the material.

For most uses I would suggest an open end rivnut, as this will accomodate any 
length of screw you use.  Closed end rivnuts are used when you want a water 
tight attachment and then its dipped in an RTV to ensure a good seal around the 
exterior of the rivnut.

After we install them we MUST perform a torque test and pull-out test to ensure 
they are properly (in a truely QA fashion, a sample is selected) installed.  If 
anuyone needs detail info on that test I can advise them.  If one spins its a 
real bear to to rework of repair (yes, rework and repair are 2 different 
animals-but thats a different discussion).

PEM nuts are installed using a press (we do lots of them also, and many 
different types and also studs).  Rivnuts are NOT installed with a press.  A 
BIG DIFFERENCE.

I have catalogs at work and if needed I could provide some info for you as to 
the "grip" range you would require for your specific use.  The grip range is 
that value of pull-up a specific rivnut will accomodate (this translates into 
material thickness).

We order such large quantities that we do not go to the smaller distributors 
and as suggested McMaster Carr does carry a selection.  Surely there are others 
as well, I just happen to have a McMaster Carr catalog in my work file cabinet.

Pick the CORRECT rivnut and its a great product; pick the wrong one and its a 
miserable product.

Hope this helpful.  Possibly more than you expected, but I know other readers 
might be interested as well.

Arne N7KA

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Will Matney" <craxd1@verizon.net> 

> All, 
> 
> Does anyone know a good supplier to buy rivet-nuts? These like the Atlas 
> brand 
> Spin-Tite rivet-nuts that use a tool similar to a pop-rivet gun to install. 
> Either surplus or new will do, but I need to find a vendor who will sell in 
> 100-500 quantity at a time. I'm starting to get my shop up and running doing 
> some aluminum cabinets, etc, and want to use these as the fasteners. Any help 
> would be appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Will 
> 
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