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Re: [Amps] How about a Solid State MARS amp

To: <w5ba@charter.net>, amps@contesting.com,schuetzen <chasm@texas.net>
Subject: Re: [Amps] How about a Solid State MARS amp
From: kg7hf@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:25:31 +0000
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I was thinking along similar lines, The AM3924, it's portable if you have an 18 
wheeler ;)  but i't one heck of a PA, two 4cx1500's in it, it can easily put 
out 3 KW++ if it had a better power supply.



-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: <w5ba@charter.net> 

> Chas, 
> 
> It's been a long time since I was a member of MARS (AAF5TVM in '67) but it 
> seems 
> like one solution might be to go through whatever the current requisition 
> channels are appropriate to see towards obtaining an AM-3979 (component of 
> AN/FRC-93). 
> In civilian use this was also known as the Collins 30L-1. It would seem to 
> offer a solution to your 1KW output requirement as well as something that is 
> rugged enough for transport in field requirements. 
> 
> GL & 73, Gerald W5BA 
> ---- schuetzen wrote: 
> > kg7hf@comcast.net wrote: 
> > > Hi Chas, 
> > > 
> > > Even removing the 160 meter requirement, it would make the ss easier, but 
> still the $1/w unattainable in either ss or tube. Like Tom said, the filter 
> board is really going to add up in price. Not only are the caps expensive 
> (especially for one off construction), you have to have pretty beefy relays 
> to 
> switch in/out each desired filter. I've been referenceing the TL-2.5k, and 
> part 
> of the reason is that I am somewhat familiar with what is inside it. Nobuki 
> Wakabayashi was very kind and helpful towards me when I embarked on a legal 
> limit ss amp. My amp is not complete, and I am into it well over $2000. While 
> it is operational, there are many necessary things that I have not put in 
> which 
> the commercial version has. Thermal protection, high/short swr protection, 
> automatic band switching, the list goes on. On the converse side, I am 
> running 
> a bit better power supply than thp, I'm using a switching power supply that 
> has 
> a bit more voltage/current capability. 
> > > 
> > > 73's 
> > > Paul 
> > 
> > I understand that but my point is that there simply is not anything out 
> > there betwee 3.2 and 29 mhz portable for a kw+ for any price reasonale 
> > to a volunteer and I think that includes both tube and SS. 
> > 
> > Almost all are less than 800W. Tom's ALS600 is still that, NOT 800W+ 
> > This MARS amp to be really popular is goiong to have to be a 1kw to make 
> > it interesting enough for the affiliate to be willing to buy it. He is 
> > going to want to use it for MARS at a max of 500W but also to be able to 
> > go to Ham bands and work Dx with at least 800W. 
> > 
> > Really, this is so reminiscent of the discussions of the perfect 
> > rifle... what it should be to be able hunt anything from prairie dogs to 
> > Elk or moose. simply stated, there is no such thing as a single rifle 
> > for all that different game anymore than I am going to find a single amp 
> > for a reasonable price for continous tuning and 1kw. 
> > 
> > $2/W is more reasonable a price but that is a lot of months of 
> > discretionary money being saved and being hit here and there for 
> > repairing the plumbing, or the car, etc. Also, it is one thing to save 
> > a thousand dollars but a multiple starts getting into shoulder shrugging 
> > and trying to find something barely fits any requirement. 
> > 
> > We just may have to find some way to subsidize the purchase but first, 
> > we are going to have to find what we want, being manufactured now. 
> > Lets face it, we do not want to take a Quadra or an ICOM version of same 
> > in the back of your mobile cross country while trying to operate it on 
> > the road. And I doubt that any of those meet the band requirements 
> > anyway. Have looked at so many specs in the last couple of months, 
> > that they are confused in my mind. wish now that i had made up a 
> > comparison chart before i started looking at models. 
> > 
> > Still, I really do appreciate your reply and time, kind consideration as 
> > well as that of Tom and others on this reflector. I am not giving up 
> > yet hihi 
> > 
> > 73/chas/k5dam 
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