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Re: [Amps] Alpha 76PA Conversion - Drive Issue

To: Carol Richards <n2mm@comcast.net>, Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Alpha 76PA Conversion - Drive Issue
From: gudguyham--- via Amps <amps@contesting.com>
Reply-to: "gudguyham@aol.com" <gudguyham@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 23:12:34 +0000 (UTC)
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I’m looking for an original transformer for a 76 3 tube..


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On Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 5:06 PM, Carol Richards <n2mm@comcast.net> wrote:

Steve,

I had N4UQ make the conversion several years ago on my 78. I used original new 
Eimac 3CX800 s. I found the same results as you……1300 w output with 80w drive. 
My alpha 76PA gets full output with 3-8874 with the same input.

I replaced the transformers in each with hyper-sil ones and had a vacuum relay 
put in the 78 for full QSK. Now it is no tune from 80-10m.

Due to my age and physical limitations. They are both for sale if you know of 
anyone. Each is a fraction of the cost of today’s amps.

Carol

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> On Nov 30, 2021, at 4:09 PM, Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 6 years ago, I converted a 3x8874 Alpha 76PA to a pair of 3CX800's. The
> tubes were the Chinese ones that Alpha was selling for a while. Even after
> removing the resistor pack in the input circuit, I had trouble getting more
> than 1300 watts output without backing off on the loading and running with
> the grid current near the trip out point. I always blamed it on the Chinese
> tubes.
> 
> Today I did a science experiment. First, I put the input network back to
> the standard Alpha 76PA "low drive" configuration with the 5x470 ohm
> resistor pack. Then I borrowed the 3CPX800's from my Commander HF-2500M.
> With those tubes, it's no better, and maybe even worse than the Chinese
> 3CX800's. These same 3CPX800's work wonderfully in the Commander with 1500
> watts output at 35-45 watts drive. (Yes, the Commander runs them at a
> higher plate voltage, and has a tuned input circuit on each band). Here are
> the specifics with the 3CPX800's in the Alpha 76PA:
> 
> Drive: 95 watts
> HV: 2000 volts
> Ip: 880 mA
> Ig: 65 mA
> Po: 1260 watts
> Efficiency: 71.5 %
> 
> Seems like I should be able to get higher Po with less drive.
> 
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
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