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[AMPS] Gassy Tubes and Gas Arcs

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Subject: [AMPS] Gassy Tubes and Gas Arcs
From: measures@vc.net (Rich Measures)
Date: Tue, 19 May 98 08:36:01 -0800
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>> Date:          Sat, 16 May 1998 22:33:12 +0100
>> From:          "Roger D. Johnson" <n1rj@ime.net>
>> Subject:       Re: [AMPS] Gassy Tubes and Gas Arcs
>> To:            Jon Ogden <jono@webspun.com>
>> Cc:            amps@contesting.com
>
>> Are you sure it's gas, Jon? I seem to remember that some tubes produce a 
blue
>> flouresence on the inside of the envelope when bombarded by wayward ions.
>> Many mistakenly assume the tube is gassy when this occurs. A gassy tube will
>> have the glow between the elements.
>
>Not only that, a gassy tube can also have no observable glow 
>between the elements and still arc!

And somehow leave no arc-craters in the metal?
>
>Outgassing from elements is common (especially with graphite 
>anode tubes), 

true , however, graphite anodes also scavange gas

>seal leakage is another problem.

... an oft' a fatal one.  
>
>When testing tubes, it's best to high pot them cold. Then apply power 
>and get them up to operating temperature while high potting or RF 
>testing them with higher than expected peak voltages.

If one is high-pot. testing a tube cold (which is the method I use), why 
is the high-pot. tester connected when the tube is "up to operating 
temperature"?  
>
>Gassy tubes can getter themselves either through an arc or other 
>gettering processes. It is common to observe a tube arc and have the 
>tube test good and perform normally after the fault (sometimes those 
>faults are conductive "whiskers", at other times gas).
>
>Glow tells you almost nothing, except when  between the 
>elements. In that case it means the tube is hopelessly gassy.

A blue glow in the space where there is supposed to be a vacuum tells me 
that there is gas present.  
>
>73, Tom W8JI



Rich...

R. L. Measures, 805-386-3734, AG6K, www.vcnet.com/measures  


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