Amps
[Top] [All Lists]

[AMPS] Shunt regulated high voltage psu

To: <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: [AMPS] Shunt regulated high voltage psu
From: 2@mail.vcnet.com (rich)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 08:08:35 -0800


>
>Tom Rauch wrote:
>>> There are ways to design around this problem, but the only reliable
>>> way is to use a higher-rated device and/or a lower rail voltage.
>>
>>.......or to clamp the shunt side of the series resistor  with a large
>>zener with a capacitor across. You can use a zener clamp rated
>>below the maximum voltage breakdown of the shunt device, and
>>above the highest desired regulated voltage.
>>
>It doesn't make sense to spend money on a high-power, high-voltage zener 
>(don't forget the heatsink) when you can uprate the shunt MOSFET for 
>much less cost.
>
//  Agreed.  But does it make sense to use inexpensive 20v - 30 V. 5W 
axial lead zeners which require no heatsink?  

>The only exception would be if you insist on running the screen from the 
>B+ supply, and wasting a large amount of power in a 100W high-voltage 
>resistor.

//  Powering the 400V screen regulator from the +1200V mid-point of the 
+2400V FWD anode supply in my 2x 4cx250R linear amplifier consumed a bit 
under 10w total.  This scheme provided failsafe screen protection in case 
of unpleasant surprises such as:
1.  Loss of anode V.
2.  Loss of load. 
--  Without a failsafe means of screen protection, either condition can 
be fatal.  
>
>>This actually is a good idea in ANY case, because the shunt diode
>>with protect the screen system if the main regulator goes on
>>vacation.
>
>The protection isn't as good as it seems at first sight. Because of 
>component tolerances, the zener voltage has to be several tens of volts 
>above the correct screen voltage, so the screen dissipation can easily 
>be exceeded if the shunt regulator goes open-circuit. It's also a fault 
>that could quite easily be missed in the excitement of a contest or a 
>pileup. 

//  So why not use the simple, foolproof, shunt screen-regulator that 
Eimac recommended for 4cx250s and 4cx1000s back in 1955?  

> Unfortunately an overheated  screen grid often leads to a 
>permanent increase in negative screen current, which may then make the 
>tube impossible to operate at full power.
>
//  Which is why I use a simple shunt zener regulator for low screen V 
tubes.  When and if a zener fails, it shorts - thereby safely decreasing 
screen V.  However for >800 screen V tubes, a pass-type regulator (with a 
25mA shunt bleeder and screen PS transformer primary fuse) is clearly a 
better engineering choice.  (see Figure 8 on my Web site).  
-  1N5357 5W, 20V, DO-5 case zeners currently cost 80-cents US each at 
Digi-Key.  20 would be needed for a 4cx250R supply - 18 for a 4cx250B 
supply.  The safe current carrying ability is c. 85mA - which enough for 
8, 4cx250s in linear service. 

>After over 10 years experience of being forced to run small tetrodes on 
>the razor's edge of screen dissipation (as the only cost-effective way 
>to get UHF power in Europe, before the Russian tubes came in) I've found 
>that the only truly effective form of screen protection is a current 
>monitor, completely independent of the voltage regulator, that 
>switches-off the screen in milliseconds if there's a fault. It means you 
>can forget the amp and concentrate on the operating.
>
cheers, Ian

-  R. L. Measures, a.k.a. Rich..., 805.386.3734,AG6K, 
www.vcnet.com/measures.  
end


--
FAQ on WWW:               http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/amps
Submissions:              amps@contesting.com
Administrative requests:  amps-REQUEST@contesting.com
Problems:                 owner-amps@contesting.com


<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>