I don't think the dizzing heights of this bizarre phenomena have yet been
scaled in this thread so may I offer for your very serious perusal
http://www.triodeandco.com/04us_prices.html
Actually and specifically the 2005 price list for Audio Note products. You
may wish to purchase their AN-E SOGON speakers at a tempting US$125,000. You
may wish to feed these from the Ongaku integrated amplifier, first 15 were
sold at the old price, US$49,500 from now on they will be at the
significantly more realistic price of US$69,500. If you prefer the far
better separate pre and power amplifier route you will be happy to pay for
the M9 phono preamplifier, only US$69,500 and the SOGON level six power
amplifier US$140,000. Of course having begged to pay for such quantities of
rare and prescious metals all redistributed into some idea of a musical
replication system it would be foolish not to go that last mile/kilometre
and invest in the right speaker cable, the SOGON LX at a mere US$7,950 per
metre. I know I know American website using metres. Oh and not forgeting the
US$370 charge for terminations. All prices are less taxes of course.
All that top of the range Yaekencom stuff looks far to cheap to be worthy of
consideration. Can somebody please build the radio mentioned in Tiltons 'DX
Power' book, the Space Universe 2001 Maxima transceiver, replete with gold
wound transformers , all silver wiring, only lime green capacitors and 50
watt resistors, totally chrome plated front panel with polished ebony
covers. Figure a bunch would sell at a knockdown US$250,000.
Cheers from steamy Bangkok.
Martin HS0ZED
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From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
Behalf Of Will Matney
Sent: 05 August 2005 19:08
To: amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Wrong Business
Pete,
The problem is where most audiophiles dont have any electronics training.
The either play in a band or just like to listen to music. In amateur radio,
most all have a little knowledge of how the electron works. With the
audiophiles, about any snake oil salesman can sell them anything. I kept
lookin through the link posted earlier, or went back to
http://www.soundstage.com and found another amp that sold for $10,000 using
two tubes! I think they were a set though (making 4 tubes) and were round
chassis like a clock. I swear I've not seen nothing to beat it. There's
another website though where the author does try to debunk a lot of myths
named Tales form the Tone Lounge ( http://www.tone-lizard.com/index.html
). The author used to build guitar amps himself. He tears into the ones
saying one capacitor has "better tone" than another, and that transformers
made certain ways are better than others. I've personally seen some
transformers, maybe 250 VA ones sell for $300-$400 each
or more!
Really, I'm looking at getting into test equipment repair, mainly with B&K
Precision on their older equipment. I wrote a letter off to them and I'm
supposed to call the owner today of BKManuals, Mr. Jon Doutt. I got an
e-mail back yesterday from them expressing interest and asking me to call.
B&K dont service any of the older equipment any more and Mr. Doutt bought
out all the old lines. If it works out, I'll have new B&K 747 tube testers
for sale along with the new B&K model 1040 tester originally made for CB
servicing. It can actually be used in amateur radio servicing too. The one
good thing is it has a two tone mic input through a small speaker to check
modulation, etc.. I have an old one here and used it a good bit. Hopefully,
if everything works out, I'll be doing servicing for them here, plus doing
some transformer work for the company which is the shot in the arm I needed.
Those orders will allow me to get the trnasformer business off the ground. I
was upfront with th em about being handicapped and figured they might not
do anything over it, but I was surprised.
Anyhow, if you get a chance, do some reading over at
http://www.tone-lizard.com/index.html and you'll like it. They have a lot of
info on older test equipment too, with histories, and service data.
Best,
Will
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On 8/5/05 at 7:46 AM Pete Smith wrote:
>Boy, doesn't the pseudo-science in these reviews drive you nuts? for
>example:
>
>"My limited experience with KT88s tells me they're a good choice to
>replace triodes; the tube has a rich, juicy midrange reminiscent of
>triodes, and can generate some real power. After all, the KT88 is a
>pentode."
>
>Whaaa?
>
>73, Pete N4ZR
>
>
>At 07:13 AM 8/5/2005, Will Matney wrote:
>>Ken,
>>
>>By those costing $6290-$7990, I know now how he got to move to Rio de
>>Janeiro to live! That might be how he supports a gambling problem
>>since it's big business in Rio. What I thought was so funny, it look
>>like a toaster that two tubes poped out of.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>Will
>>
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>>
>>On 8/5/05 at 7:01 AM kenw2dtc wrote:
>>
>> >Will,
>> >
>> >Don't build a cheap amp, build this one:
>> >
>> >http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/audiopax_stereo_88.htm
>> >
>> >73,
>> >Ken W2DTC
>> >
>> >-------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >> Folks, I am definately in the wrong business. I was doing some
>research
>> >on
>> >> audio transformers over a discusstion I had with another membor of
>this
>> >> mailer a while back. Oh yea, Rich those windings I spoke about are
>> >called
>> >> interleaved windings. Anyhow, while reading about them at sevral
>places
>> >> using google as the search, I came across the website below. I
>> >> knew I
>> >was
>> >> in the wrong business as look at the audio amp and the price! The
>> >website
>> >> is kind of neet too, especially the toolbar at the top.
>> >>
>> >> I swear I'm strongly thinking about building these to sell. I
>> >> didn't
>> >know
>> >> there was that many idiots out there who would blow that kind of
>money.
>> >> The only part I'd hate is lying to the customers about all the
>> >> claims
>> >they
>> >> have on capacitors and transformers.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.vintone.com/clipper.html
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >>
>> >> Will
>> >
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