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Subject: [AMPS] SB-220: Operate/Standby Switch
From: W8JI@contesting.com (Tom Rauch)
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:58:02 -0500
Hi Peter,

My "spam" filter made me miss most of this, but I should add a few 
comments. 

> Rich says:
> 
> >Consider that the price of a 25w rheostat is under $6.  

Of course Rich always leaves a few things out.

1.) There would have to be some reasonable assurance lack of a 
rheostat actually is causing a problem with tube life. That doesn't 
seem to be the case since almost 80% of tube failures are G/K 
shorts and the remaining percentage mostly due to loss of vacuum 
or voltage breakdown failures.

2.) If the rheostat was added, provisions would have to be made for 
monitoring voltage accurately. Most expensive panel meters are 
only 2% of FS anywhere on the scale, and to make that worse it 
would be driven by a rectifier and true-RMS filtering system that 
would be full of components with tolerances. By the time all is said 
and done, the $6 rheostat would add $100 of cost to the PA if you 
bought new parts (which commercially you have to do, unless you 
are someone who foolishly mixes in surplus parts) and would have 
to be hand calibrated.

3.) If you get past the above you have given someone, who's skill at 
reading meters, eyesight, and common sense are unknown, ability 
at the mere tweek of a knob to RUIN a tube quickly. You can bet 
that person, even if he did something wrong, would demand a free 
tube...or it could be a V31BB who actually rewired his transformers 
for 200 volts (on a 240 volt main ) so he could run more power!


4.) Even if you stopped some life reduction by allowing filament 
adjustment, the end result would be to add a certain number of 
hours to the tube life. It would not make the tube live forever, and 
very likely would not improve it a measurable amount in Amateur 
service.  

5.) Factually the easier you make it for someone to screw up or 
abuse the equipment, the more likely it will happen. There would be 
a reasonably large percentage of additional failure from component 
failures and customer abuse or errors.

> Yes. Which is why in a home brew amp, you'd fit one, 
> without argument.

Not me. None of my amps have rheostats for filaments. The reason 
is simple. My line voltage varies from 241 volts to 252 volts from the 
highest demand periods of summer to the lowest demand times in 
winter, and I am in a rural area many miles from generating plants 
and even HV transmission lines. That's well within the acceptable 
range of tube filaments. I simply set the transformer taps at the 
correct mean voltage, and let it go at that.

Even if voltage stability of my mains was + - 5% or more, I'm sure 
I'd never see the difference in failures because I've never had a 
stripped cathode or open filament. By far the biggest stress in 
amateur service is the constant thermal cycling of the filament, and 
not the running time deterioration. If I wanted to make tubes last 
longer, I'd quit turning the filaments off and on a few times every 
day. 

I don't do that because it cost me more in energy to run the 
blowers and filaments than it costs in tube life reduction. 

Most tube failures are due to manufacturing defects in the tubes, or 
abuse. Virtually none are controllable and correctable failures.

It's easy to sit in a room parked in from of a computer, never build a 
commercial product, and take unfounded pot-shots at the world. It's 
quite another view when you spend time analyzing returns and 
looking at the cost to reduce the few things that are controllable. 

Factually, whether people like it or not, every single prevention 
system ADDS failures in other areas while reducing failures in the 
target area. It is easy for additional problems to offset the benefits, 
and wind up costing more that leaving things alone.

That's why you NEVER, from an engineering standpoint, add 
components that have negative impacts on other areas of the 
system. The rheostat Rich "harps" about is a prime example of 
something that can cause more problems than it cures, because it 
"corrects" what is almost always a non-problem while adding 
unreliablity and the potential for damaging human error.

The trend of amplifier design, in the low-tech world we are in, will be 
to REMOVE customer controls...not add them. Especially when 
they have the potential to do harm and are unlikely to do any good.

> In the commercial world, $6 on a component is at least 
> $12 on the ex-works price. In the case of a variable or
>  preset control, where testing and adjustment is 
> required, add another $5. These are the real costs you 
> find in a production environment.

You forgot the meter and circuits needed, and underestimate the 
time required to make sure the system is calibrated, as well as the 
cost of failures in the additional parts (any one of which could 
actually cause a tube failure).
 
> So all of a sudden, our filament rheostat is costing $20 
> plus sales tax to the end user.  Similar sort of add ons
> happen for step start, increased cooling for the tank 
> circuit and so on. Very soon, you're talking of the $5k
> plus amplifier. Which is part of the explanation of why 

I did a cost estimate on adjustable filament voltage at one time, 
and asked for statistical data from Eimac on their tube returns. 
They said other than amps that run the filaments at 10-20% extra 
voltage (Dentron and two other manufacturers) they saw virtually no 
preventable filament failures. Such failures were  "in the noise floor" 
of the statistics. Unlike Rich, I trust what Eimac tells me.

The out-the-door cost to correct that non-problem was about $100 
back in 1988.
73, Tom W8JI
w8ji@contesting.com

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