When the amps are outlawed , Hams will start building them in their garages
and sell them making great profits.
There are hundreds of hams doing this and also many making the 10KW + amps
for themselves.
They even cheat on their taxes!
Hey , I seen CBer's make better DX contacts on a ligit CB channel than most
hams.
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Ron
WYsixK wrote:
> You're wrong Jim,
>
> The CBer's with amps might not hurt anybody if they stayed in the CB
> band. But they don't. You must not operate 10 meter CW or you would
> know that. It is damned difficult to work DX on 10 CW nowadays because
> of all the trashy CBers that are operating there.
>
> The propensity for many CBers to operate illegally, whether with regard
> to power or frequency, is a threat to our operations and, ultimately a
> threat to our licenses. The average person doesn't know there is any
> difference between CB and Ham. So anything that CBers do that is
> illegal rubs off on us too - and probably contributes to a call for
> more restrictions on hams. All this high power CB stuff may cause the
> demise of the CB service too - but that would be fine with me. I think
> it should be replaced with something like a 900 Mhz band and returned
> to its original intent - casual short range communication.
>
> Ham radio is put at real risk any time a CBer runs a ham radio power
> amp and causes TVI or any other type of interference. The logical
> pushback from those that experience the interference is to "take away
> their amps". If our defense is that the CBers are using Ham amps
> illegally, the response will still be "Well, we can't police each and
> every CBer, but we can sure outlaw the amps they use, lower the power
> limits for hams, and restrict outdoor antennas".
>
> CBers have already cost us the 10 meter band on commercial power amps
> and it's not at all far fetched to worry that their misdeeds can cost
> us our power amps. If the only way to curtail high power CB operations
> is to make the sale of all RF power amps illegal, you can count on it
> happening.
>
> I'd like to see all of us file complaints every time we see a CB amp on
> ebay or wherever. The more that can be done to restrain illegal CB
> oeration, the better it is for both services.
>
> Michael
>
> --- Jim Thompson - W3LAP <w3lap@america.net> wrote:
> > Jim Strohm
> > Please just keep your windows buttoned up at 902 SAVANNA LN and leave
> > well
> > enough alone. Where did you get your start - CB band. YES. Those guys
> > and girls
> > on the cb band are not harming you in the least. The world would be a
> > better
> > world if people like yourself wasn't continually looking for fault.
> > My-2-cents-worth.
> > --
> > Jim Thompson - w3lap
> >
> >
> >
> > > Jim Strohm wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Roger D. Johnson" <n1rj@pivot.net> says --
> > > >
> > > > > I've noticed a bunch of obvious CB amps for auction on
> > > > >e-Bay. I've been going through the FCC regs trying to
> > > > >find an easy way for a non-ham to tell the difference
> > > > >between a legal "ham" amp and one of the illegal "CB"
> > > > >types.
> > > > > Since 28 April 1978, amps have to be "type accepted"
> > > > >(the old term for certificated). My Drake L-7 just has
> > > > >a sticker saying that it's type accepted. Do later amps
> > > > >have an FCC ID number? Some of my gear has the FCC ID
> > > > >number some don't. What section of the regs determines
> > > > >which equipment is required to have the number? I can
> > > > >find all kinds of info on applying for the number, what
> > > > >tests the gear must pass, etc.
> > > >
> > > > I've seen some post-1978 CB amps bearing an obviously bogus label
> > > stating
> > > > "Certified according to FCC regulations effective 28 April 1978"
> > or
> > > > something like that. Right now I don't have anything of that
> > vintage in
> > > > the shack that's still pristine enough to have the label affixed.
> > > >
> > > > If you slide a T81-series Mitrek through a bandsaw, you get a
> > dandy 100+
> > > > watt HF amp that'll drive to full output on a few hundred
> > milliwatts.
> > > >
> > > > If you get a label printer, you can type "FCC Type Accepted" and
> > print a
> > > > type acceptance label (at your own risk -- use of such a label is
> > a
> > > > specific and flagrant violation). Just don't use the yellow
> > label tape
> > > > with the smiley faces, okay?
> > > >
> > > > And -- I saw those amps on ebay. Usually I'll file a complaint
> > if the
> > > item
> > > > shows up on a search for CB linear, AND the description says it
> > was used
> > > on
> > > > 11, or is described as suitable for same. But the last time I
> > looked,
> > > > there were so many chicken-choker amps on ebay that I just gave
> > up.
> > > >
> > > > Jim N6OTQ
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