This makes me wonder if they don't have different rules for different
places they ship from. Never, have I had a claim turned down shipping from
Huntington, WV or Ashland Ky . They have always checked my packaging on
every thing I insure over the $100 free insurance. I have had insurance
claims from $200 to $1150 and never had a problem. I assume they contact the
depot they ship from to find out any details along with the one who received
the item. I know they did come and pick up the damaged items, box and all,
when they paid for a claim on some, and some they didn't. I also take
pictures of something expensive before it was shipped and the packaging, but
never have been asked for them. It may be in who they want to pay and who
they wont?
Will
-------Original Message-------
From: Dr. William J. Schmidt, II
Date: 02/25/05 21:52:28
To: Will Matney
Subject: Re: [Amps] [BULK] - Re: Shipping Damage
<<If the package is determined to be packed properly by the people running
the UPS receiving desk, after you pay your insurance fee, they'd then be
liable. >>
Nope! Not on your life. The burden is on you to show it... not them. It's
nice to THINK it is them.... but you need to read the rest of it.
Sincerely,
Dr. William J. Schmidt, II K9HZ
Trustee of the North American QRO - Central Division Club - K9ZC
Email: bill@wjschmidt.com
WebPage: www.wjschmidt.com
"If computers get too powerful, we can organize them into a committee; that
will do them in." -- Bradley's Bromide
----- Original Message -----
From: Will Matney
To: Dr. William J. Schmidt II
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Amps] [BULK] - Re: Shipping Damage
William,
Well the below covers it;
" (including, but not limited to, improper,
inadequate or unsafe packaging or wrapping that fails to meet UPS's
published standards related thereto set forth in the UPS Tariff or
elsewhere)"
If the package is determined to be packed properly by the people running the
UPS receiving desk, after you pay your insurance fee, they'd then be liable.
Since these standards are what the receiving personell look for before
taking it in to ship. I've had to repack some items so they would cover it,
and they've repacked some for me.
About 6 months back, a friend sent in a heavy power supply for repair. The
transformer which was really heavy (25 lb +), was mounted on top of a sheet
metal chassis pan of about 20 ga. mild steel. When it was originally made,
that was the way it was shipped. During shipment to me, it was dropped, or
had to be dropped. The transformer caved in the chassis on the one side,
just smashing it flat. It was reported, UPS called me, and he was paid
within a month. They inspected it before shipment at a UPS hub. I only go
direct to UPS and not others like drop-off places or the so-called package
and ship places. If they see it and okay the packaging, they'll back it up.
I've not had any problems about getting payment.
Best,
Will
-------Original Message-------
From: Dr. William J. Schmidt, II
Date: 02/25/05 19:55:25
To: garyschafer@comcast.net
Cc: amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] [BULK] - Re: Shipping Damage
You folks need to read the fine print (from
http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resources/service/terms/service.html ):
UPS will not be liable for or responsible for loss or damage to: articles of
unusual value (as defined in Item 460 of the UPS Tariff); Prepaid Letters;
perishable commodities or commodities requiring protection from heat or cold
to the extent the loss or damage results from exposure to heat or cold or
the perishable nature of the item; loss or damage due to war risks, insects,
moths, vermin, inherent vice (including, but not limited to, improper,
inadequate or unsafe packaging or wrapping that fails to meet UPS's
published standards related thereto set forth in the UPS Tariff or
elsewhere), deterioration, dampness of atmosphere, extreme of temperature,
ordinary wear and tear or that which occurred or arose prior to or after the
course of transportation by UPS; and special, incidental or consequential
damages. Additionally, UPS will not be liable for any damages related to
providing, or the failure to provide, C.O.D. service, including, but not
limited to: failure to collect the C.O.D. amount; failure to collect the
specified form of payment; collection of an instrument in the wrong amount;
failure or delay in delivering the collected instrument to the shipper; or
collection of forged, insufficient funds or otherwise invalid instruments.
I think that about covers it!
Sincerely,
Dr. William J. Schmidt, II K9HZ
Trustee of the North American QRO - Central Division Club - K9ZC
Email: bill@wjschmidt.com
WebPage: www.wjschmidt.com
"If computers get too powerful, we can organize them into a committee; that
will do them in." -- Bradley's Bromide
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>
To: <Japerlick@aol.com>
Cc: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Amps] [BULK] - Re: Shipping Damage
>
>
> Japerlick@aol.com wrote:
>
>> I asked UPS what their response would have been if the unit had been
>> insured.
>> THey said "Same thing....we would not cover it because it was poorly
>> packaged." In reality, they are right...their job is to move the
>> package not pack
>> it.
>
> They are not right. If they accept your payment for "insurance" that is
> an additional fee over the normal shipping liability they have. With
> insurance they are guaranteeing it will arrive safely.
> Poor packaging is their responsibility to determine before they accept
> the package for shipment. What is the definition of "poor packaging"?
>
> If they accept the package after you pay for insurance there should be
> no question as to how it was or wasn't packed when it comes time to pay
> up. Their insurance is a big rip off!
>
> Vent mode off.
>
> 73
> Gary K4FMX
>
>
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