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Re: [Amps] crying abt spam

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Subject: Re: [Amps] crying abt spam
From: Tony King - W4ZT <amps071806@w4zt.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:05:49 -0400
List-post: <mailto:amps@contesting.com>
Gosh Keith,

Do you think that just because you get tons of SPAM that everyone else 
should or if they do they should just sit back and take it? Do you think 
that we should make no effort to eliminate SPAM and that list hosts bear 
no responsibility for helping in that task?

If so, then perhaps you are the one living in the cave.  Come out in the 
daylight and smell the roses.  In today's world more and more people are 
focusing on preserving individual privacy on the net and anyone or any 
group that doesn't respect that surely is still living with their Model 
32 TTY.

I agree that no matter how hard you try, the thoughtless actions by some 
individual that may unintentionally forward something to you in a list 
that goes to the world will get you but don't accept that as being OK. 
We CAN do something about SPAM and we aren't going to do it by sitting 
back and telling ourselves that "it's just the way it is". Google shows 
about 350 hits for the email address you use on this list. You should 
check Google for your office address and then determine how it got out. 
A simple address change with notice to those that NEED to know your 
address will reduce your SPAM content to zero over night and the rate it 
builds back up is directly proportional to how soon that address gets 
into the wild.

This list and most any list can take measures to prevent subscriber 
email addresses from being released to SPAMMERS.  I subscribe to several 
other lists and NONE of them generate SPAM like this one. This is the 
ONLY one that doesn't secure the archives so that subscriber's email 
addresses can't be accessed by bots scanning for prospective targets.

Remember, it's not "just an email"... taken in the large doses that 
they're being dished out, it is HUGE chunks of bandwidth and EVERYONE 
pays for that.

73, Tony W4ZT

Keith Dutson wrote:
> Do you guys live in a cave?  I get tons of SPAM in my office mailbox and I
> am subscribed to NO lists there.
> 
> Don't kid yourself into thinking a list can prevent you from getting
> spammed.  The spammers will find you, eventually.  Just deal with it!
> 
> 73, Keith NM5G
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
> Behalf Of Tony King - W4ZT
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 12:10 PM
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] crying abt spam
> 
> Hello John,
> 
> John Vickers wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tony King - W4ZT"
>>
>>>  It is hosted by Contesting dot Com.
>> That one sentence says it all. 
> 
> yes it does
> 
> Unless we are charged to participate in this
>> list, it's up to the indivual to use an address he doesn't mind being 
>> harvested.
> 
> I respectfully disagree with you about this. Most of those that participate
> in this list do so without an expectation of spammers harvesting their email
> addresses. Just because you participate in a list doesn't mean you should
> expect irresponsible handling of your information.
> 
> It's also the senders responsibility to check the address box and
>> see who the heck he's sending mail to. It would also be nice to delete 
>> all the thread that doesn't apply to the info your sending.
> 
> Agreed
> 
> And last but not
>> least--- it'd be good to let the "Host" of this list know we 
>> appreciate the use of their site. Perhaps even send a small donation 
>> to keep it going. If once in awhile things don't go just right----"be 
>> a damn cowboy" don't start whining and crying unless you are paying for
> the service.
>> 73, WA4TT
> 
> One of the best ways to show that you appreciate the list is to contribute
> to the list. There is a large gap between showing appreciation and having
> tolerance for irresponsible actions. Those of us that participate hope we
> can contribute something as well as learn something in the process. It is
> good and right to have higher expectations.
> 
> Our ANONYMOUS moderator started the thread.
> 
> 73, Tony W4ZT
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