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Re: [Amps] Transformer reliability? 34yr old Collins...

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Transformer reliability? 34yr old Collins...
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 15:00:10 -0400
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This was sent hours ago but was returned due to too many recipients.

Carl

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
To: "Scott McGrath" <mcgrath@fas.harvard.edu>; "Jim Tonne" 
<tonne@comcast.net>
Cc: <>; "Vic K2VCO" <vic@rakefet.com>; "TMorton" <cx7tt@4email.net>
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] Transformer reliability? 34yr old Collins...


> Baking seldom gets down to the windings closest to the core on big 
> transformers. Plus the oven doesnt like the weight.
>
> Ive cooked big ones by shorting the output and using a Variac and AC 
> ampmeter on the input. Bring the voltage up slowly over a day or so to 
> 75-80% of calculated or known primary rating and let it run a few 
> days. A small fan can be used to move some air as well as heat a small 
> room. Remove the end bells or an unsealed case if possible.
>
> If it now passes the megger test then remove the short and install a 
> moderate load on the secondary and metering current and voltage. Bring 
> up the variac while watching all 3 meters.
>
> Once your satisfied its time to varnish the beast and there are 
> several options. Dip it while hot a few times, build a vacuum chamber 
> or take to a motor shop. I used the shop on the big one as I didnt 
> have anything big enough to put it in. A flea market pressure cooker 
> works as a chamber, dont exceed around 15-20".
>
> Variations can be used on chokes and modulation iron as well.
>
> I cooked a 3500VAC 1.5A CCS 1946 built xfmr that failed the megger 
> test for a week. Its been in regular use for over a month now.
>
> Carl
> KM1H


>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Scott McGrath" <mcgrath@fas.harvard.edu>
> To: "Jim Tonne" <tonne@comcast.net>
> Cc: <Amps@contesting.com>; "Vic K2VCO" <vic@rakefet.com>; "TMorton" 
> <cx7tt@4email.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 9:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Transformer reliability? 34yr old Collins...
>
>
>> You can bake it in a 175-200 degree oven for 6-12 hours and that will
>> dry it out.   Do this while XYL is out.    Barring that get a pound 
>> or
>> two of silica gel from a craft store and place it and xfrmr in a 
>> sealed
>> container for a couple of weeks in a warm place (top of furnace) 
>> comes
>> to mind
>>
>> The bakeout is still the best bet though.
>>
>> - Scott N1JIN
>>

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