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Subject: [Amps] Lowpass filter inductor cores
From: Manfred Mornhinweg <manfred@ludens.cl>
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 17:46:14 +0000
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Hi all,

I'm puzzled by seeing many low pass filter boards offered on eBay and elsewhere, that are rated for 1kW, 1.5kW and even more, with some sellers stating that their filters can work in CW without requiring cooling; and these filters all seem to use T-130-2 and T-130-6 toroids. With the 10m coils having 5 turns on a T-130-6 toroid, and the 6m coils 4 or even 3 turns.

I just did a small calculation, and if I'm not mistaken I get a flux density of around 30mT on the 30m band. Extrapolating the loss data given by Micrometals and Amidon for that iron powder material, it turns out that at 1500W output the core loss would be around 100W!!! And on 6m of course it would be worse. The inductors would get hot enough to unsolder themselves.

Either I did a mistake in my calculations, or it's simply not true that those filters can work at this power level, maybe not even with forced air cooling!

So my question is: Has anybody here actually used any of those filters, or the mentioned cores, at legal-limit RTTY, on the highest bands? How hot do the toroids get? With how fast air flow?

Manfred

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