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Re: [Amps] 3cx800a7 Grid Current Problem

To: "Vic K2VCO" <k2vco.vic@gmail.com>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] 3cx800a7 Grid Current Problem
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:38:22 -0500
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The 922 was fine on 160 for the JA band at the time.

Carl
KM1H


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vic K2VCO" <k2vco.vic@gmail.com>
To: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] 3cx800a7 Grid Current Problem


> The stock 922 apparently isn't optimal at the low end of 160 (or 80). I 
> had to add some
> capacity across the loading capacitor to get a reasonable match on mine, 
> but output is
> still low compared to other bands. I suspect that there isn't enough 
> inductance and the Q
> is too high.
>
> On 1/25/2012 11:14 PM, Mike Tubby wrote:
>> On 26/01/2012 02:40, TexasRF@aol.com wrote:
>>> About a month ago, JE1BMJ reported a similar problem with his SB1000. In
>>> his case, the problem was found to be inadequate bypassing of the plate 
>>> rf
>>> choke. Apparently enough rf was reaching the bypass capacitor to heat it 
>>> up
>>> and  cause it to change value and that was enough to detune the plate 
>>> circuit.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Gerald K5GW
>>>
>> This appears to be not uncommon across several amp designs - even the
>> venerable TL-922 shows lower output on 160m than it does on 80m/40m and
>> no doubt if the input power is there then the output is going
>> somewhere... okay in the case of the '922 it might not be causing
>> de-tuning and grid current but I bet soemthing's getting warm ;-)
>>
>> Mikie G8TIC
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 1/25/2012 7:20:22 P.M. Central Standard Time,
>>> at6c@bellsouth.net writes:
>>>
>>> Carl/Paul,
>>> There isn't a fix loading padder (Carl, I think you  are referring to a
>>> capacitor pad for 160M correct me if I am wrong) in the  HF 1250.  There
>>> is a tapped ferrite transformer/coil that is switched  in for 40-80-160.
>>> That being the case the problem could be something  shorting out part of
>>> that transformer in the 160M position.  Also the  band switch could be
>>> bad.  Have you checked all the components in the  RF compartment for
>>> visual damage/overheating/value?  The only  difference in the
>>> tuning/loading circuit between 80M and 160M is the  position of the band
>>> switch and which part of the above coil is in the  circuit.
>>>
>>> Another point to consider is that the LP100A has three  different
>>> selections for measuring output  power(average/peak/?pulse?).  I find
>>> that if you are tuning a twitchy  amplifier a needle type watt meter is
>>> easier to use than the LP100 (maybe  it's just me).  I think if you are
>>> not using a pecker tuner,   peak is recommended, check the manual.  Also
>>> carefully follow the  instructions in the HF 1250 manual as to the way
>>> you tune the amp.  I  found those instructions will prevent surprise 
>>> grid
>>> current  fluctuations.  Good  luck.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> George
>>> W2GS
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>
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