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From: KA9EGW <ka9egw@ka9egw.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 15:32:20 -0600
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Seems to me there was also one in strays that use something like a dozen 1625’s 
on parallel

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> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 20:54:32 -0500
> From: "Paul Christensen" <w9ac@arrl.net>
> To: <amps@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] amplifier in 1960's QST
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> Possibly the Galaxy 2000+.  A full description was authored by Wilfred
> Scherer, W2AEF and appears on p. 17 in the January, 1967 issue of CQ
> Magazine.    A total of <gulp> ten (10) 6HF5 sweep tubes are used in
> parallel.  The design also makes use of a dynamic linearizer by sampling
> input and output RF voltage.  Non-linearity produces a voltage that's then
> applied to a series regular in the bias supply.
> 
> Paul, W9AC
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amps [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carl
> Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 7:53 PM
> To: Fuqua, Bill L <wlfuqu00@uky.edu>; amps@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] amplifier in 1960's QST
> 
> I vaguely remember the article and the tube load was 50 Ohms so there was no
> Load control!!
> 
> WRL or Globe had a something 2000 that was all sweep tubes.
> 
> Carl
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fuqua, Bill L" <wlfuqu00@uky.edu>
> To: <amps@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 12:06 PM
> Subject: [Amps] amplifier in 1960's QST
> 
> 
>> I have been looking for an article about a suitcase kW amplifier using a 
>> load of sweep tubes. directly off power line power supply (voltage 
>> multiplier) and a broadband matching network. Not interested in building 
>> one because there are all sorts of problems with the idea. I think it was 
>> in late 60's but I can't find it. Perhaps it was not QST.
>> 
>> Anyone remember it?
>> 
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Bill wa4lav
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 06:44:04 -0800
> From: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>
> To: "Shon Edwards" <sre.1966@gmail.com>,    "Amplifier Reflector"
>    <amps@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] MFJ products
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> ##  You forgot to tell us that it was a 40 A   13.8 vdc, switching type power 
> supply !  
> Found it on U tube, where the vdc pegged past 16 vdc.  Another fellow had his
> way over 45 vdc...and fried his yaesu.    The u tube fellow says his  did not 
> have
> any over voltage protection built into it !   Since his was under warranty, 
> MFJ will
> repair it..... but not the very expensive yaesu xcvr. 
> 
> ##  Fuses on radios  will only protect against excess current, not excess 
> voltage.   Your
> surge protector on the input of the 120 vac.. feeding the MFJ switching 
> supply, will  not help at all. 
> The issue is the lack of over voltage protection in the mfj switching supply, 
> and what ever caused 
> it to crank out excess  vdc in the 1st place... frying everything connected 
> to it. 
> 
> ##  Either   replace with a better quality switcher from a different 
> manufacturer, or  use
> an analog supply, like a  50 A  CCS astron. 
> 
> ##  way too many issues with the MFJ-4245  switcher imo.  if the supply bows 
> up, who cares... but when the
> same supply  blows up  a bunch of expensive gear connected to it, then its a 
> serious issue.  
> 
> Jim   VE7RF
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Shon Edwards 
> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 8:42 PM
> To: Jim Thomson ; Amplifier Reflector 
> Subject: Re: [Amps] MFJ products
> 
> I know this isn't really an amp question, but I checked my email for 
> mfj-4245mv and found this one.  Last week, the current just took off.  Fried 
> a couple radios whose fuses didn't work.  Also my surge protector didn't stop 
> it from frying my radios.  Any idea what caused this or how to fix it? 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> de Shon, K6QT
> 
> Shon R. Edwards, MA, AG (Czech Republic)
> 
> Amateur call:  K6QT
> 1039 N 2575 W
> Layton, UT, 84041-7709
> USA
> Home phone:  (801) 444-3445
> E-mail:  sre.1966@gmail.com
> 
> 
> or
> 
> Shon Edwards
> 715 Strawberry Creek Private Rd.
> Bedford, WY 83112
> Cell:  (307) 248-2104
> 
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Jim Thomson <jim.thom@telus.net> wrote:
> 
>  Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:26:27 +0200
>  From: "Peter Frenning [OZ1PIF]" <peter@frenning.dk>
> 
>  Subject: Re: [Amps] MFJ products
> 
> 
>  My 5 cents worth:
>  I own and use several pieces of MFJ equipment, much of it has been in
>  daily use for more than 10years:
>  a MFJ-4245MV SMPS, no RF-hash, and has performed nearly 24/ 7 for
>  more than 10years
>  a MFJ-259B antenna analyzer, without a doubt the most useful tool
>  in my toolbox
>  I know there are better/more accurate/higher quality analyzers
>  available now - at vastly higher prices!
>  this one has been in use for more than 10 years in my shack and
>  in the field, and when I broke it
>  (my own fault - reverse polarity) MFJ was very helpful with
>  repair suggestions
>  I owned a MFJ-969 tuner for several years - did exactly what it was
>  supposed to do at a very reasonable price
>  Various power meters an dummy loads - again they have been
>  performing exactly as expected.
> 
>  To conclude: yes corners have been cut here and there, but at the prices
>  asked you get fair usefulness and many times equipment which few of us
>  could afford without MFJ supplying it.
> 
>  --
>  Vy 73 de OZ1PIF/5Q2M, Peter
> 
>  ##  You obviously have not tried one of their SS HF linear amps..like the
>  AL-600  or AL-1300.   I defy anybody to get one to run full bore for 5 years
>  straight.
> 
>  Jim  VE7RF.
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 09:49:53 -0500
> From: John Bodine <john.bodine@gmail.com>
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] MFJ products
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> Long ago I removed all adjustable voltage supplies from the shack because a
> bump or a grandchild can break your heart(cook your transceiver).
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Jim Thomson <jim.thom@telus.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ##  You forgot to tell us that it was a 40 A   13.8 vdc, switching type
>> power supply !
>> Found it on U tube, where the vdc pegged past 16 vdc.  Another fellow had
>> his
>> way over 45 vdc...and fried his yaesu.    The u tube fellow says his  did
>> not have
>> any over voltage protection built into it !   Since his was under
>> warranty, MFJ will
>> repair it..... but not the very expensive yaesu xcvr.
>> 
>> ##  Fuses on radios  will only protect against excess current, not excess
>> voltage.   Your
>> surge protector on the input of the 120 vac.. feeding the MFJ switching
>> supply, will  not help at all.
>> The issue is the lack of over voltage protection in the mfj switching
>> supply, and what ever caused
>> it to crank out excess  vdc in the 1st place... frying everything
>> connected to it.
>> 
>> ##  Either   replace with a better quality switcher from a different
>> manufacturer, or  use
>> an analog supply, like a  50 A  CCS astron.
>> 
>> ##  way too many issues with the MFJ-4245  switcher imo.  if the supply
>> bows up, who cares... but when the
>> same supply  blows up  a bunch of expensive gear connected to it, then its
>> a serious issue.
>> 
>> Jim   VE7RF
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Shon Edwards
>> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 8:42 PM
>> To: Jim Thomson ; Amplifier Reflector
>> Subject: Re: [Amps] MFJ products
>> 
>> I know this isn't really an amp question, but I checked my email for
>> mfj-4245mv and found this one.  Last week, the current just took off.
>> Fried a couple radios whose fuses didn't work.  Also my surge protector
>> didn't stop it from frying my radios.  Any idea what caused this or how to
>> fix it?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> de Shon, K6QT
>> 
>> Shon R. Edwards, MA, AG (Czech Republic)
>> 
>> Amateur call:  K6QT
>> 1039 N 2575 W
>> Layton, UT, 84041-7709
>> USA
>> Home phone:  (801) 444-3445
>> E-mail:  sre.1966@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> or
>> 
>> Shon Edwards
>> 715 Strawberry Creek Private Rd.
>> Bedford, WY 83112
>> Cell:  (307) 248-2104
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Jim Thomson <jim.thom@telus.net> wrote:
>> 
>>  Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:26:27 +0200
>>  From: "Peter Frenning [OZ1PIF]" <peter@frenning.dk>
>> 
>>  Subject: Re: [Amps] MFJ products
>> 
>> 
>>  My 5 cents worth:
>>  I own and use several pieces of MFJ equipment, much of it has been in
>>  daily use for more than 10years:
>>  a MFJ-4245MV SMPS, no RF-hash, and has performed nearly 24/ 7 for
>>  more than 10years
>>  a MFJ-259B antenna analyzer, without a doubt the most useful tool
>>  in my toolbox
>>  I know there are better/more accurate/higher quality analyzers
>>  available now - at vastly higher prices!
>>  this one has been in use for more than 10 years in my shack and
>>  in the field, and when I broke it
>>  (my own fault - reverse polarity) MFJ was very helpful with
>>  repair suggestions
>>  I owned a MFJ-969 tuner for several years - did exactly what it was
>>  supposed to do at a very reasonable price
>>  Various power meters an dummy loads - again they have been
>>  performing exactly as expected.
>> 
>>  To conclude: yes corners have been cut here and there, but at the prices
>>  asked you get fair usefulness and many times equipment which few of us
>>  could afford without MFJ supplying it.
>> 
>>  --
>>  Vy 73 de OZ1PIF/5Q2M, Peter
>> 
>>  ##  You obviously have not tried one of their SS HF linear amps..like the
>>  AL-600  or AL-1300.   I defy anybody to get one to run full bore for 5
>> years
>>  straight.
>> 
>>  Jim  VE7RF.
>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Later,
>        John Bodine/WU2E
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 08:03:12 -0700
> From: Shon Edwards <sre.1966@gmail.com>
> To: Jim Thomson <jim.thom@telus.net>, Amplifier Reflector
>    <amps@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] MFJ products
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> Thanks Jim and everyone else (and the sympathies).  Sorry I neglected to
> give all the info.  Yes, it's a mystery to me why all happened just as it
> did.  No matter how low I switched the DC Adjust dial (9-15 V), it just
> pegged itself it seemed even a bit higher than the max.
> 
> Shon R. Edwards, MA, AG (Czech Republic)
> Amateur call:  K6QT
> 1039 N 2575 W
> Layton, UT, 84041-7709
> USA
> Home phone:  (801) 444-3445
> E-mail:  sre.1966@gmail.com
> 
> or
> 
> Shon Edwards
> 715 Strawberry Creek Private Rd.
> Bedford, WY 83112
> Cell:  (307) 248-2104
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Jim Thomson <jim.thom@telus.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ##  You forgot to tell us that it was a 40 A   13.8 vdc, switching type
>> power supply !
>> Found it on U tube, where the vdc pegged past 16 vdc.  Another fellow had
>> his
>> way over 45 vdc...and fried his yaesu.    The u tube fellow says his  did
>> not have
>> any over voltage protection built into it !   Since his was under
>> warranty, MFJ will
>> repair it..... but not the very expensive yaesu xcvr.
>> 
>> ##  Fuses on radios  will only protect against excess current, not excess
>> voltage.   Your
>> surge protector on the input of the 120 vac.. feeding the MFJ switching
>> supply, will  not help at all.
>> The issue is the lack of over voltage protection in the mfj switching
>> supply, and what ever caused
>> it to crank out excess  vdc in the 1st place... frying everything
>> connected to it.
>> 
>> ##  Either   replace with a better quality switcher from a different
>> manufacturer, or  use
>> an analog supply, like a  50 A  CCS astron.
>> 
>> ##  way too many issues with the MFJ-4245  switcher imo.  if the supply
>> bows up, who cares... but when the
>> same supply  blows up  a bunch of expensive gear connected to it, then its
>> a serious issue.
>> 
>> Jim   VE7RF
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:* Shon Edwards
>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 03, 2017 8:42 PM
>> *To:* Jim Thomson ; Amplifier Reflector
>> *Subject:* Re: [Amps] MFJ products
>> 
>> I know this isn't really an amp question, but I checked my email for
>> mfj-4245mv and found this one.  Last week, the current just took off.
>> Fried a couple radios whose fuses didn't work.  Also my surge protector
>> didn't stop it from frying my radios.  Any idea what caused this or how to
>> fix it?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> de Shon, K6QT
>> 
>> Shon R. Edwards, MA, AG (Czech Republic)
>> Amateur call:  K6QT
>> 1039 N 2575 W
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1039+N+2575+W+Layton,+UT,+%0D+84041&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Layton, UT, 84041-7709
>> USA
>> Home phone:  (801) 444-3445
>> E-mail:  sre.1966@gmail.com
>> 
>> or
>> 
>> Shon Edwards
>> 715 Strawberry Creek Private Rd.
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=715+Strawberry+Creek+Private+Rd.%0D+Bedford,+WY+83112&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Bedford, WY 83112
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=715+Strawberry+Creek+Private+Rd.%0D+Bedford,+WY+83112&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Cell:  (307) 248-2104
>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Jim Thomson <jim.thom@telus.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:26:27 +0200
>>> From: "Peter Frenning [OZ1PIF]" <peter@frenning.dk>
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [Amps] MFJ products
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My 5 cents worth:
>>> I own and use several pieces of MFJ equipment, much of it has been in
>>> daily use for more than 10years:
>>> a MFJ-4245MV SMPS, no RF-hash, and has performed nearly 24/ 7 for
>>> more than 10years
>>> a MFJ-259B antenna analyzer, without a doubt the most useful tool
>>> in my toolbox
>>> I know there are better/more accurate/higher quality analyzers
>>> available now - at vastly higher prices!
>>> this one has been in use for more than 10 years in my shack and
>>> in the field, and when I broke it
>>> (my own fault - reverse polarity) MFJ was very helpful with
>>> repair suggestions
>>> I owned a MFJ-969 tuner for several years - did exactly what it was
>>> supposed to do at a very reasonable price
>>> Various power meters an dummy loads - again they have been
>>> performing exactly as expected.
>>> 
>>> To conclude: yes corners have been cut here and there, but at the prices
>>> asked you get fair usefulness and many times equipment which few of us
>>> could afford without MFJ supplying it.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Vy 73 de OZ1PIF/5Q2M, Peter
>>> 
>>> ##  You obviously have not tried one of their SS HF linear amps..like the
>>> AL-600  or AL-1300.   I defy anybody to get one to run full bore for 5
>>> years
>>> straight.
>>> 
>>> Jim  VE7RF.
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Amps mailing list
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>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/amps
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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