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Subject: [Amps] Vac relay sequencing.. [WAS contact bounce]
From: "Jim Thomson" <Jim.thom@telus.net>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 05:07:56 -0700
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Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:55:26 -0700
From: "Bill, W6WRT" <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Vac relay sequencing..  [WAS contact bounce]

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On Sun, 4 Apr 2010 07:11:37 -0700, "Jim Thomson" <Jim.thom@telus.net>
wrote:

>
>Sri  for the  diatribe, but I have  extensive experience  using the RJ-2  and  
>RJ-6  vac relays.   Your  RJ-6, as configured above,  will  last 25 x million 
>operations.... per jennings. 

REPLY:

Be careful using the Jennings SPDT relays on 10 meters.  They are
barely adequate for legal limit on 10. 

##  legal limit on 10m  is  5.5A into 50 ohms. 

##  The  Jennings  RJ1-A  is  rated for 7A @ 32 mhz.  That's 2450 watts  CCS.   
    We  used the  Gigavac  GH-1 ham, which is
the eq of the RJ1-A  on the 2 x GS35-B   6m amp.   The gigavac GH-1 handles  
4.4 kw cxr.. and  4.7 kw pep  just fine. [50.125 mhz]
[dummy load of course].  It won't blow up on 6m, when run way past it's 
ratings. It's built like a tank.
The gigavac GH-1 ham  will easily hi-pot test to > 7.5 kv.  [$77.00]

##  two  GH-1 hams, with all contacts in parallel, is rated for 14 A  CCS  @ 32 
mhz =  9.8 kw.  If u want  qsk  qro,
this is the way to do it.  Some extra  Teflon sheeting between the connections  
helps  a lot. [ zero flash over]     



 Most of them are  rated for
only 10 amps continuous carry current at 32 MHz. The one exception  is
rated at 12 amps.

##  the  RJ2-B/C  and the  RJ6 are both rated for 10A  CCS  @ 32 mhz = 5 kw  
CCS cxr. 
##  we used  2 x  RJ2-B's,  with all  contacts in parallel on a  YU-148.  = 20A 
 CCS  @  32 mhz= 20 kw.
##  3 of em in parallel = 30 A @ 32 mhz =   45 kw.   
## the  gigavac  G2 ham is gigavac's eq  of a jennings RJ2-B/C  RJ-6 .  The  
G-2 ham  and  G-2
have IDENTICAL specs.. so ignore the 'de-rated'  ham specs for peak v and CCS 
current.  And that's 
per my conversation with gigavac engineer on the phone.    
Gigavac is  doing hams a favour, selling the GH-1 ham, and G2-ham at
bargain basement prices.   A regular  G-2  sells  for  $400.00   The ham 
version is $133.00
You can get the G-2 ham in threaded cylinders..[ highly advised].. and also  
flange or threaded base. 
You  can also get it in 12 vdc  or  26.5 vdc.    You can get the GH-1 ham  in  
12 vdc or  26.5 vdc  versions. 
I'll  use the  GH-1  ham  for both the input of an amp, and also the  cut off 
bias.  Then, timing issues
are predictable, no contacts to ever clean, or get dirty  from  dirty airflow 
into the plenum, no pitting,
no int contacts, etc. Flat swr on bypass mode.   You can also run 2 kw  through 
it on BYPASS.   
That feature alone, allows you to hook up several amps, nose to tail, in 
series.  A 1 in, 6 out, small
rotary  switch  ensures that only 1 x amp is keyed at any one time.  Key line 
from xcvr is fed to input
of rotary switch,  with a separate output  to each amps's input key line.   
Then it's instant qsy.




If you have less than 2:1 SWR on 10 you should be ok, but with 2:1 you
will be slightly over the edge if your coax is at a current node. Not
a show-stopper necessarily, just something to keep in mind.

##  the worse case scenario would be  25 ohm, pure resistive load,  which is 
very unlikely to happen. 
IE:    7.7A   into a 25 ohm load [ zero reactance]  = 1.5 kw.  A  GH-1  will 
handle that just fine. 

later.......... Jim   VE7RF




73, Bill W6WRT

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