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Re: [Amps] Not the Diacrode

To: ka4inm@tampabay.rr.com, amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Not the Diacrode
From: TexasRF@aol.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:20:19 EDT
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I lost a couple of good TH347 tubes due excess filament current at turn on. 
 I thought there was sufficient turn on current limiting but apparently  
not.
 
A circuit was devised from readily available parts that slowly turns the  
filament on over a 2 minute period of time.
 
The filament transformer is a 50A unit; the tube needs 34A and that makes  
the problem worse.
 
The circuit has a 100 ohm power resistor in series with the 120VAC  
transformer primary. A Dayton timer is used to operate a Radio Shack 120vac  
relay 
after 60 seconds. This relay switches a pair of series connected Keystone  
surge limiters (from Mouser) across the 100 ohm resistor. Two were used  
because one did not take enough time to reach a low resistance.
 
A second timer switches on a second relay after another 60 seconds. This  
relay shorts both the 100 ohm resistor and the current limiter. With the  
resistor and limiter shorted, full voltage is applied to the filament  
transformer. Additionally, the 100 ohm resistor and surge limiter will begin a  
cool 
down cycle making them ready for another limiting cycle if needed.
 
The maximum filament current happens when the second relay closes and  
everything is fine as the filament is up to temperature by then.
 
In series with this circuit is a 10 ohm rheostat that is used to adjust the 
 filament voltage to the needed 5.9 VAC.
 
73,
Gerald K5GW
 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 8/28/2009 10:53:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
ka4inm@tampabay.rr.com writes:

>  The ramping is a lot easier to do 
> with DC  supply than AC (which might use variacs, saturable reactors, or 
> other  ancient technologies). I use an SCR regulated mains supply with 
> good  filtering.

Filaments can just as easily be ramped up on  ac, this way with no 
fuss.  I have seen ferro-resonant regulator  feeding the filament 
transformer, the size was carefully chosen so the low  resistance of the 
cold filament "bogged down" the regulator to a few %  out, as the heater 
warmed, the resistance rose as did the output of the  regulator until 
opium temperature, current and solid regulation were  achieved.
I first saw this on 8.5 Volt 25 Amp Varian  klystrons.
-- 
Ron  KA4INM - The problem with  socialism is that eventually you run 
out of other people's  money.
[Margaret Thatcher]
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